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How many women died from illegal abortions prior to Roe v. Wade?

Posted in Abortion death, Abortion Death List, Abortion History, CDC, Illegal abortion, Planned Parenthood Employee with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on November 28, 2017 by saynsumthn

Pro-abortion professor testifies against Heartbeat Bill using bogus, debunked abortion statistics

Prior to the legalization of abortion, those who sought to legally end the lives of preborn children falsely marketed their position by claiming that women were dying by the thousands (and even millions) from illegal abortions. However, there is absolutely no evidence to back up those figures.

Despite this, those figures continue to be repeated by abortion advocates any time they sense that the so-called “right” to abortion is potentially in jeopardy.

A pro-abortion professor, testifying under oath before Congress, unfortunately used these disputed and highly suspect statistics regarding the number of women who died from illegal abortions in an effort to oppose the federal pro-life Heartbeat bill, HR490, which proposes to stop abortions at a point when it can be documented that the preborn child’s heartbeat can be detected:

Prof Priscilla Smith testifies HR490 Heartbeat abortion bill

In her testimonyProfessor Priscilla Smith claimed that 5,000 women died annually from illegal abortions prior to Roe v. Wade:

Women have been obtaining abortions since the beginning of time, before Roe when abortions were illegal… An estimated 1.2 million women each year still resorted to illegal abortion in the US. As many as 5000 of these women — already born – living, breathing, lungs working, hearts beating, women, many with children at home who depended on them — 5,000 of them died each year as a result of illegal abortions and many more were severely injured. This is the world we would return to if HR490 went into effect….

But the facts don’t agree with Smith’s claims. A 1975 report by National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine, entitled, “Legalized Abortion and the Public Health: Report of a Study,” disputes these statistics (emphasis added):

It is difficult to find credible estimates of the number of deaths associated with illegal abortion. One estimate, which has been frequently quoted, is between 5,000 and 10,000 deaths per year. That is hardly plausible, considering that the total number of deaths of women aged 15-44 from all causes in the United States is approximately 50,000 annually, and the total number of deaths due to abortion reported by the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) has been below 500 since 1958 and below 100 since 1971.

The 5,000 figure originates from a piecemeal of several sources based largely on assumptions, and comes straight from the largest abortion lobby group in the nation: National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL.)  NARAL’s footnote quotes from a source that allegedly “discussed Dr. Christopher Tietze’s estimate of nearly 8,000 deaths from illegal abortion annually in the United States.” The truth is that Tietze disputed the 5,000 to 10,000 number, as did records of maternal deaths reviewed by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in the years just prior to national legalization.

NARAL Footnotes on illegal abortion deaths

In fact, in Lawrence Lader’s book “Abortion,” also sourced, he clearly states, “Tietze places the figure nearer 1,000.” But, as Dr. John C. Willke explains in the video below, that trend decreased over time:

Tietze was a senior consultant to the Center for Policy Studies of the Population Council, a radical organization founded by John D. Rockefeller III. That organization’s second president was Frederic Osborn, a founding member of the American Eugenics Society who signed Margaret Sanger’s “Citizens Committee for Planned Parenthood,” published in her review in April of 1938. (Osborn may have coined Planned Parenthood’s “Every Child a Wanted Child” slogan, and once wrote, “Eugenic goals are most likely attained under a name other than eugenics.”)

In 1967, Dr. Tietze, who was speaking at a conference on abortion sponsored by the Harvard Divinity School and Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. Foundation, called the 5,000 illegal abortion deaths, “unmitigated nonsense,” according to a September 13, 1967 article in the Berkshire Eagle.  The paper went on to give substantially fewer numbers by Tietze, writing, “The known deaths attributed to abortion in 1964 were 247 and he thinks it is fairly safe to estimate that the real figure may be double that, even a little more, but certainly no more than a thousand.” Note that Dr. Tietze was no pro-lifer: In 1973, he was awarded Planned Parenthood’s infamousMargaret Sanger Award, named after a eugenicist who gave at least one speech to the Ku Klux Klan.

The Kingsport News reported on that same conference, pointing out that Tietze disputed the reported illegal abortion totals, which some claimed ranged from 200,000 to 1.2 million annually. The paper quotes Tietze as saying, “we have no real basis for guessing which extreme is closer to the truth.”

Tietze disputes illegal abortion deaths, 1967

Tietze, who favored abortion on demand, also opined that legalizing abortion would “not have a big impact on mortality.”

The Register, a Virginia paper, notes in its article entitled, “Supporters of Liberal Abortion Laws use Inflated Statistics, Expert says,” that Tietze suggested that the larger numbers (5,000 to 10,000) were made up to scare politicians into legalizing abortion. “The higher estimates are made by people who feel in order to raise sympathy for liberalized abortion laws they have to make people afraid.”

Tietze Illegal Abortion Deaths Inflated 1967

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Tietze was right.

Dr. Bernard Nathanson, one of the early founders of NARAL (then known as the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws), revealed that he and his colleagues fabricated the large numbers of deaths from illegal abortion in an attempt to sway public opinion toward making abortion legal.

In his book, “The Abortion Papers,” Dr. Nathanson admitted that the 5,000 to 10,000 figure which was fed “to the public and the media in the late 1960’s,” was fabricated because it was a “nice, round, shocking figure.” And, just like they do today, the media — willingly and with no documentation — repeated that figure with no demand for proof.

However, there was data available, and it didn’t support those fabricated figures.

On October 19, 1959, Mary S. Calderone, a medical director of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, presented a paper before the Maternal and Child Health Section of the American Public Health Association (APHA) at the Eighty-Seventh Annual Meeting in Atlantic City, New Jersey, where she also gave far fewer numbers than Professor Smith:

In 1957 there were only 260 deaths in the whole country attributed to abortions of any kind. In New York City in 1921 there were 144 abortion deaths, in 1951 there were only 15; and, while the abortion death rate was going down so strikingly in that 30-year period, we know what happened to the population and the birth rate.

In 1967, New York Assemblyman, Albert Blumenthal, who sponsored a law to legalize abortion that year, was quoted by the media as claiming that between 35 and 60 deaths from illegal abortions were reported in New York City annually. That same year, an Illinois Health Director by the name of Dr. Herbert Ratner called the 5,000 to 10,000 figure “outlandish,” noting, “This hardly leaves room for deaths from other causes.”

1967 article Illegal abortion Chicago Tribune

Dr. Ratner also correctly warned that the liberalization of abortion, which he called “exterminative medicine,” would start a dangerous trend in medicine — a prophetic insight America has sadly seen come true.

By 1969, the very first abortion surveillance report was published by the Centers for Disease Control, noting a “lack of accurate incidence, prevalence, morbidity and mortality data” on abortion. At that time, five states had passed abortion legislation and 24 others had bills under review. According to this same CDC report, in 1966, the National Center for Health Statistics reported 189 maternal deaths from abortion complications.  And, while no one would diminish those numbers, they are a far cry from the 5,000 touted by Professor Smith.

By 1970, the CDC reported that in just a six month period (July to December), out of sixteen reported abortions in New York City, eight women — yes, HALF — had died from legal (not illegal) abortions. In total, the 1970 report states that 25 women died in New York City (where abortion had been liberalized), and eleven of those were from illegal abortions. The report also noted that Black and Puerto Rican women suffered higher legal abortion mortality rates.

According to that CDC document, “although there was substitution of legal for illegal abortion deaths, no significant decrease in total abortion mortality occurred following institution of the new law….”

CDC Abortion Deaths, 1970

In 1972, the year prior to national legalization, CDC reports revealed that deaths from illegal abortion were nothing close to Professor Smith’s 5,000 figure. In this table from the CDC report (shown below), just 39 women died from illegal abortion in 1972 while 24 died from legal abortion.

CDC Abortion deaths 1972 to 1990

Live Action News previously documented that the majority of illegal abortions were performed by physicians, and many of those same doctors went on to perform legal abortions, some of whom have seriously injured and even killed women. But, today, instead of protecting the women who are being butchered or are dying from legal abortion, advocates like Professor Smith spew made up numbers from the illegal abortion days.

It would appear that abortion advocates do not actually care about the safety of women or even about real statistics; they care only about legalizing abortion at any cost.

7 facts the average American doesn’t know about legalized abortion

Posted in Abortion History, Abortion Vintage, Roe with tags , , , , , , , , , , , on January 24, 2016 by saynsumthn

As we enter another year of legalized abortion on demand, many Americans are unaware of many facts regarding the history of abortion in the United States. To correct some of these misnomers, we have listed seven facts that the average American does not know about legal abortion.

Keep abortion legal

1. Abortion was legal prior to 1973 in certain states

In 1967, Colorado became the first state in the US to legalize abortion. The bill was introduced by then Representative Richard D. Lamm. In 1968, Georgia legalized abortion. Previously, in 1966, Mississippi had legalized the procedure for cases of rape. Then during the debate to liberalize abortion in New York in 1970, the issue of unsafe abortions swayed one representative to change his vote on the floor, opening the door to abortion on demand in that state. Which brings me to the next fact.

2. Few women died from abortion the year prior to it’s legalization:

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Despite the repeated lie that thousands or millions of women died from illegal abortion, there was then as now no law requiring the deaths of women from abortion to be reported. Stats from the Center for Disease Control show that, the year prior to Roe (1972) 66 women were reportedly killed from abortion. Out of those 39 were illegal, 24 were from legal abortion and 2 were unknown. However, in the year abortion was legalized (1973), the CDC documents that more women died from legal abortion than from illegal abortions.

3. Roe in the Supreme Court case never had an abortion:

Norma McCorvey ABC News Screen

The 1973 abortion case was brought to the Supreme Court on the basis that Norma McCorvey, the Roe in the case was raped and needed an abortion. The fact is that she was never raped and never wanted an abortion. In fact, Norma is also now pro-life and is seeking to overturn the infamous decision.

4. The language for Roe was written years before the case was decided

In 1962 the American Law Institute (ALI), comprised of judges, lawyers, and law professors who suggest recommendations for revisions to state laws proposed liberal abortion language as part of the “model penal code.” As a result, between the years 1962 and 1973, nineteen states reformed their abortion laws and enacted all or part of the institute’s reform model. Hawaii, Alaska, New York, and Washington removed all limitations for performing an abortion. Portions of the language read very close to what the Justices eventually enacted and included the “exceptions” language that opened the door for abortion on demand:

“[a] licensed physician is justified in terminating a pregnancy if he believes there is a substantial risk
(1) that continuation of the pregnancy would gravely impair the physical and mental health of the mother or
(2) that the child would be born with grave physical or mental defect, or
(3) that the pregnancy resulted from rape, incest, or other felonious intercourse.”

image: Live Action video

image: Live Action video

5. Roe V. Wade allowed for unrestricted abortions up to viability (24 weeks) with states deciding thereafter (viability measures have now drastically improved)

According to Paul Pauker who summarized Roe for Live Action previously, in Roe the Supreme Court adopted a trimester framework for state regulation of abortion. The Court held: in the first trimester of pregnancy, states may not regulate abortion; in the second trimester, states may regulate abortion only in ways related to protecting the mother’s health; and in the third trimester, states may “regulate, and even proscribe, abortion except where necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother.”

6. Doe v. Bolton, the companion case to Roe, opened the door for abortion on demand by allowing the “health of the mother” exception” to be defined however the doctor chose.

Pauker states that the language that seemed to allow a third trimester ban on abortion was deceptive, because in Doe, the Court gave “health” such a broad definition that states have been prevented from successfully imposing bans on abortion, including late-term abortions.

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Testimony from Sandra Cano the Former Doe of Doe v. Bolton, before the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Senate Judiciary Committee June 23, 2005 showed that, like the Roe case, she never wanted an abortion:

“The Doe v. Bolton Supreme Court decision bears my name. I am Sandra Cano, the former ”Doe” of Doe v. Bolton. Doe v. Bolton is the companion case to Roe v. Wade. Using my name and life, Doe v. Bolton falsely created the health exception that led to abortion on demand and partial birth abortion. How it got there is still pretty much a mystery to me. I only sought legal assistance to get a divorce from my husband and to get my children from foster care. I was very vulnerable: poor and pregnant with my fourth child, but abortion never crossed my mind. Although it apparently was utmost in the mind of the attorney from whom I sought help.

7. Today, based on many lies, tragically abortions are legal in all stages of pregnancy

Late term abortion Daily Signal 2015

The U.S. is one of only seven developed countries in which late-term abortions after 20 weeks (five months) are allowed, according to a 2015 report from the Charlotte Lozier Institute. The above graphic published by the Daily Signal reveals just how many states allow abortions through all nine months of pregnancy.

More facts Americans generally do not know about legal abortion published by Live Action News here and here.

That scratch your head this is hard to believe moment….

Posted in Planned Parenthood with tags , , , , on May 29, 2015 by saynsumthn

There are those moments when you read something and you do a double take and then… you still cannot believe what you are reading.

Like this: Born after Roe meme from Planned Parenthood.

Hard to believe?

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Born After Roe is described by Planned Parenthood as , “a reproductive health advocacy group that welcomes new and ardent supporters of Planned Parenthood into a safe space for education and conversation. Its free advocacy salons are specifically aimed at supporters in their 20s and 30s. Past salons have focused on the Supreme Court Hobby Lobby v. Burwell decision, elections, health insurance, how to talk about abortion and sexuality with family and friends, and more.”

So, let me get this right.

Planned Parenthood is concerned about the “next generation?”

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Uh….wait a minute…still scratching my head.

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Planned Parenthood KILLS the next generation- but – hey – if you happen to escape their abortion killing machine- then- they want you to join them.

Fair enough – NOT!

Happy anniversary abortion – vid

Posted in Black Conservative, Blacks protest abortionn, NARAL, Roe with tags , , , , , , on January 24, 2015 by saynsumthn

On the 40th anniversary of legalized abortion in America, the Center for Reproductive Rights uploaded this provocative video, featuring Mehcad Brooks.

Happy Anniversary Center for Repro Rights

Needless to say, they received a great deal of criticism for it and eventually removed it.

In response, AlfonZo Rachel, uploaded this video:

This week marked the 42nd year of abortion on demand.

NOW leader: ROE did not give women RIGHT to make abortion decision

Posted in Abortion, National Organization for (Some) Women, National Organization for Women, Right to Privacy, Roe with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , on May 7, 2014 by saynsumthn

National Organization for [Some] Women president, Terry O’Neill, agrees with MSNBC’s Chris Hayes that Roe did not give the woman a RIGHT to make a decision on abortion- it gave the “right” to the “doctor” !

NOW Prez Chris Hayes

MSNBC’s Chris Hayes tells his guests that Roe was “about the right of privacy – of the doctor.”

Hayes continues, “I mean the people don’t realize this The finding in Roe, I’m going to read this is – this is the controlling opinion in Roe, Harry Blackmun…

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Prior to approximately the end of the first trimester, the abortion decision and it’s effectuation must be left to the medical judgment of the pregnant woman’s attending physician. The decision vindicates the right of the physician to administer medical treatment according to his professional judgment…

Hayes points out, “So even Roe was shot through with this perspective.”

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Terry Oneil NOW Prez

National Organization for [Some] Women president, Terry O’Neill agrees and replies, “Even Roe and Chris, it gets worse. The case after Roe, Planned Parenthood V. Casey, Sandra Day O’Connor talking about how women aren’t necessarily the right people to make this decision, that the state should have the right to proselytize her, to pressure her to encourage her to make the decision that that the state wants her to make. Later on in Carhart, in the Carhart case, that upheld the criminalization of a safe abortion procedure, a late-term procedure, Justice Kennedy specifically said it’s okay to criminalize this safe procedure for women because women regret the choice they make. So the law is riddled with distrust of women’s ability to make their decisions.”

The rest of the segment is about placing a Birthing Center where unborn children are delivered alive inside an abortion clinic which murders unborn children. I have already blogged about that Oxymoron here !

Ginsburg: eliminating abortions hurt the poor the “populations we do not want there to be too many of”

Posted in Abortion, Ginsburg with tags , , , , , , , on July 9, 2010 by saynsumthn

At the Aspen Ideas Festival,in Apsen, Co. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg declared Thursday that abortions would continue to be available to women regardless of the legal challenges now being waged by opponents of Roe v. Wade.

Over a generation of young women have grown up, understanding they can control their own reproductive capacity, and in fact their life’s destiny,” Ginsburg said in rare public remarks. “We will never go back to the way it once was.

Ginsburg said that any changes in access to abortion simply hurts poor women.

“If people realize that, maybe they will have a different attitude,” she said.

Yes- it is true that Ginsburg wants people to think it is the poor who need abortion. Perhaps it is the POOR who are TARGETED with ABORTION !

Listen to Ginsburg in a 2009 interview in the New York Times Magazine, “ Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided,
there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of
.

Are the POOR the ones Ginsburg does not want there to be “Too Many Of”? Won’t anyone ask???????????

Watch a clip from the documentary: Maafa21 and see how eugenics is being used to eliminate the poor and minority community: