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Donald Trump says he is “pro-life” but what does he mean?

Posted in Donald Trump with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on June 18, 2015 by saynsumthn

Bloomberg Business asked Donald Trump if he was pro-life and he said “yes.”

Donald Trump on abortion

But asked to expound and he said, “It’s an issue. I mean it’s an issue and it’s a strong issue.

Asked if abortion early in the pregnancy was murder to the Don, he replied,”What I am saying is this. With caveats. Uh Life of the mother, incest, rape – that’s where I stand. So, I’m pro-life but with the caveats. You have to have it with the caveats…”

Asked if a pregnancy happens outside those caveats, Trump stated, “It depends why,” he said.

I’m, pro-life…very simple pro-life,” he said.

His not-so-passionate “pro-life” answer seems to be a change from what he wrote in 2000.

The America We Deserve Trump abortion

In his book, The America We Deserve, Trump devoted three sentences to abortion, claiming to be “pro-choice” but against partial birth abortion.

In 2011, before a crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, D.C. Trump was asked about his pro-choice position and responded, “Who said I’m pro-choice?’

Well, Mr. Trump, in 1999 you told Meet the Press this:

    “Well, I’m very pro-choice. I hate the concept of abortion. I hate it. I hate everything it stands for. I cringe when I listen to people debate the subject. But, you still, I just believe in choice.”

Donald Trump prochoice abortion 1999

He went on to say, “I am strongly for choice but I hate the concept of abortion.”

Then in 2011, Trump told Laura Ingram on her radio show, “I’m pro-life.

Trump admitted in a 2011 interview on NBC that he thought there was a “right to privacy” in the Constitution.

This was the basis for the Roe v. Wade court case that led to legalized abortion on demand, which apparently Donald did not know because he asked Savannah Guthrie:

    “Well, that’s a pretty strange way of getting to pro-life. I mean, it’s a very unique way of asking about pro-life. What does that have to do with privacy? How are you equating pro-life with privacy?”

At that time, Savannah Guthrie reminded him of the Roe V Wade decision.

Trump responded, “Look, I’m pro-life. I’ve said it. I’m very strong there. And, I’m strong on pro-life.”

CNN July 2015:

It is apparent that Trump wanted to be identified as against abortion in some cases.

If he is really pro-life though- he will not approve of the slaughter of children for the crimes of their fathers.

I guess, we will have to see what….evolves next.

Adults burn baby after forcing abortion on teenaged rape victim

Posted in forced abortion, pro-choice violence with tags , , , , , , , , , , , on June 3, 2015 by saynsumthn

REPUBLISHED FROM LIFE DYNAMICS BLOG:

Four people have been arrested after authorities say they viciously beat a 14-year-old rape victim to force an abortion and then attempted to burn the baby after the attack.

Four arrested teen pregnant abortion baby burned

The victim, who was eight months pregnant at the time of the beating, told police she was a virgin before a family member raped her in 2012.

As a result of the rape she became pregnant.

She said that she “did not tell anyone about the sexual assault because … she was embarrassed.”

According to reports, the girl’s relatives found out about the pregnancy between January and March 2013 and “became very nervous and were concerned about … [Child Protective Services] removing children from the residence,” the affidavit says.

After the beating the teen delivered the baby stillborn.

Police say that the adults then took the baby and tried to burn the child to cover their crime.

The teen remained quiet about the rape until May 22, 2015 when she was taken to police by another woman who said she witnessed part of the assault.

Police then arrested 27-year-old Cedric Jones, 45-year-old Sharon Jones, 25-year-old Cecila McDonald and 27-year-old Lonnell McDonald on charges of engaging in organized criminal activity. Police have not released the relationship each perpetrator had with the teen and all are not family members.

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The Dallas Morning News reported the details of the assault as follows:

    Sharon Jones gave the girl “multiple doses of birth control pills, Plan B [emergency contraception] pills and cinnamon tablets … to abort the baby,” police said.

    After the pills failed to induce an abortion, Cecila McDonald pinned the girl down while Lonnell McDonald began “repeatedly bouncing up and down” while sitting on the girl’s abdomen. He also is accused of kicking the girl repeatedly.

    Cecila McDonald told her, “You ain’t about to get my kids taken away from me,” while Lonnell McDonald laughed, according to the affidavit.

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Sharon Jones called Cedric Jones Jr. and told him to come over to the house.

Lonnell McDonald then allegedly told Jones when he arrived that “he had already been kicking the “s*** out of the b***.”

According to the affidavit the girl then began “throwing up and having severe cramps.”

WFAA reported these gruesome details:

    She was uncontrollably pushing and delivered what she believed was a stillborn baby … Accomplice Cecila McDonald entered the bathroom and placed the baby in a white plastic mop bucket and removed it from the room.

    At some point after the assault, the baby was placed in a short, pill-shaped, black metal charcoal grill and attempted to burn it.”

    The affidavit said the family members then plotted to dispose of the body.

    Accomplice Sharon Jones contacted suspect Cedric Jones Jr. approximately two days later and offered to pay him $25 if he would take care of the rest of it. Suspect Cedric Jones, along with a witness, returned to the location at which time Suspect Cedric Jones Jr. placed the remains in a dark green plastic bag with a red drawstring, placed it in his trunk, and stashed the remains in an unknown location.”

In their report entitled, “Under-the-Radar Violence in the Conflict Over Abortion,” Life Dynamics has documented that pregnant girls and women are often assaulted and even murdered when they fail to submit to abortion.

Life Dynamics has also documented that abortion is used to cover for pedophiles who rape and impregnate young girls. That report, entitled, The Cover-Up of Child Sexual Abuse, can be read here.

Australian Judge Implies Incest Okay as Abortion can take care of Children Born Deformed

Posted in Incest with tags , , , on July 11, 2014 by saynsumthn

An Australian Judge has implied that incest is okay ad to make matters worse he suggested legalized abortion can get rid of children that may be born deformed from the relationship.

Australian Judge Incest

According to The Independent, District Court Judge Garry Neilson has been criticized for espousing the view that sexual contact between siblings or between adults and children should perhaps no longer be viewed as “unnatural” or “taboo”, the Sydney Morning Herald reported.

Neilson drew parallels with widely changing attitudes towards gay sex. In the same way, he said, “a jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now ‘available’, not having [a] sexual partner”.

The judge went on to say that incest is only criminalized because of the high chance that any resulting offspring will be born with serious birth defects, but added that “even that [risk] falls away to an extent [because] there is such ease of contraception and readily access to abortion”.

Neilson made the astonishing comments during the trial of a brother charged with raping his younger sister. The man had earlier pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting his sister when he was 17 and she was 10 or 11 in 1973 or 1974 – but pleaded not guilty to the charge of sexual intercourse without consent, with an alternative charge of incest, for the alleged 1981 offense.

Prosecutor Sally Dowling is now trying to get the case moved to another judge.

“These remarks in my submission are completely disgraceful,” Dowling stated. “The reference to abortion is particularly repellent.”

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Nigerian Pastor criticized for saying you can abort a child conceived in rape

Posted in Church, Church pro-abortion, Rape and Abortion with tags , , , , , , on March 12, 2014 by saynsumthn

According to several reports, ChrisOyakh Chris Oyakhilome, who is pastor of the multinational Christ Embassy International Church in Lagos, Nigeria, believes that it would be unfair for a woman who had been raped and became pregnant to then be forced to carry that unborn child to term. He also believes that there is nothing against what he suggests in the Bible and therefore would not be going against the law of God.

Apparently, during a question and answer session this month about Biblical principles at his church, Oyakhilome said that the Bible does not mention anything about it being compulsory for a woman who is forced into intercourse to continue to have that child. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome posted the message above on his Facebook page on Sunday, March, 2014.

The senior pastor of Christ Embassy answering the question ‘Can a baby that is a product of rape be aborted?’ said the decision is left for the woman to make.

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However, since the Nigerian pastor’s comments have gotten around, an online debate about his teaching has popped up on Facebook.

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Recently pro-lifers were outraged when a Pastor called children conceived in rape, a Demon Seed ( read here)

Child conceived in rape who have been born are speaking out on the website Save the One.

Rick Perry ” I will always stand for life !” except for the unborn baby in the womb of a rape/incest victim ?

Posted in Abortion, Politics with tags , , , , , , , , , on September 23, 2011 by saynsumthn

Perry on forcing HPV vaccines on children:

According to LifeSite news:
After Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s office said the GOP presidential frontrunner does not oppose all abortions, drawing fire from a right to life advocate, one Texas pro-life group is insisting that the statement only reflects the governor’s acceptance of incremental pro-life legislation.

Katherine Cesinger, the State Press Director for RickPerry.org, told Maryland pro-life leader John Lofton in a recent email forwarded to LifeSiteNews.com that “Gov. Perry is pro-life, with exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.”

Lofton, an editor for The American View, told LifeSiteNews.com that the statement proved that portrayals of Gov. Perry as totally pro-life are misleading. “He is repeatedly characterized as pro-life everywhere,” said Lofton, who criticized Perry in a press release this week highlighting Cesinger’s statement.

Pro-life leaders in Texas responded, arguing they have not been wrong to endorse Perry as a thoroughly pro-life candidate.

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