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Pro-life march highlights 1st abortion for rape law days before Mother’s Day

Posted in Abortion and rape, Abortion History, American Law Institute with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , on April 25, 2016 by saynsumthn

In May, mother’s and children of rape conception along with supporters will gather at the Mississippi State Capitol to recognize 50 years of legal abortion in the state which began Mother’s Day 1966. The Freedom March Life Wins event, which takes place May 6th is being organized by Juda Myers founder of Choices4Life an organization which supports females who are pregnant after rape and those who are raising the children.

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Myers told Live Action Action News that two years ago she heard God tell her to look up the law that legalized abortion in the state of Mississippi. “I looked it up and discovered the law was passed May 8, 1966 [Mother’s Day]. So, the Lord told me to go read the text.” Myers said she stumbled upon a photo image of the law published by another group who opposes abortion. She discovered that Mississippi was the first state to amended its law to permit abortions in cases of rape. “I felt like someone stabbed me in the heart,” Myers said.

Juda Myers

Juda Myers

Myers is outspoken against abortion on demand, but she takes a strong stand against rape exceptions because, as she puts it she is one of the rape conceived. At the age of 46, Myers discovered that she was conceived in rape. Two years later she met her birth mother who tearfully recounted how she was gang raped as a young woman and became pregnant with Myers. When the doctors told her mother that they would “take care of it” Myers said that her mother told her she responded by telling the doctors:

    ” You won’t take care of “it” – “it” is MY baby.”

Myers discovered that her birth mother lovingly placed her for adoption after feeling pressured to have the abortion. Myers was born on Valentine’s Day 1957 and her mom told her when they met that Myers was the best thing that had ever happened in her life. After her mom passed, Myers was told by her close friends that her mother celebrated her birth every Valentine’s Day and vowed that they would celebrate together again, which they finally did.

Myers said she is holding the Freedom March Life Wins event a week before Mother’s Day, not just for herself but for the mother’s who are treated with disrespect like her mother was. Choices4Life reaches out to the rape conceived as well as those who are victims of rape. The stories they tell to Myers has compelled her to be an activist. And Myers, is passionate about her message on abortion for rape: NO EXCEPTIONS!

To Myers and those she works with and represents, abortion for rape is nothing more than genocide against an entire group of people from every race, culture and gender. She points out that when you research the history of abortion in America you will find that model abortion laws originated in the 1950’s with the American Law Institute (ALI), an organization of American lawyers whose mission was the reform of American law. They released the first draft of their Model Penal Code to liberalize abortion on May 21, 1959. Although Colorado, California and North Carolina became the first states to adopt the full language of the ALI model penal code, Mississippi was the first state to allow for the rape exception to abortion.

ALI Abortion Model Penal Code as published by the  Chicago Tribune May 29. 1966

ALI Abortion Model Penal Code as published by the Chicago Tribune May 29. 1966

1966 Attitudes on abortion published by the Chicago Tribune May 29, 1966

1966 Attitudes on abortion published by the Chicago Tribune May 29, 1966

Myers points out that people generally refer to children conceived in rape as the “lowest of the low.” In fact, not that long ago, a pastor referred to the children of rape as a “demon seed.” Myers said that every time she hears about a “rape exception” she gets angered because she knows that those so-called exceptions represent precious preborn children. To Myers, people like her are being targeted for death because of someone else’s crime. And, although Myers loves and works within the pro-life movement she says that they are not without criticism for support of such exceptions.

    “The pro-life community is willing to use us as a sacrificial negotiating tool, for what they consider to be the greater good.”

Myers passionately believes that children conceived in rape are equally as valuable as any other preborn child and should be vigorously protected along with their mothers. Myers believes that because rape was the reason abortion was legalized to begin with, ending rape exceptions can actually end all abortions. She said that Mississippi was the first state to use rape to liberalize their abortion laws but that tactic was also used by Sarah Weddington when she argued the Roe vs. Wade case before the US Supreme Court. The case, which originated in Texas was based on a lie that Norma McCorvey, the Roe in Roe vs. Wade, was raped. McCorvey later recanted her involvement in the case which opened up legal abortion in all 50 states, calling the premise that she was raped a lie.

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    “It started with rape and it will end with rape. When the rape conceived are valued everyone will have equal value in the room.”

Myers said that The Freedom March Life Wins event will honor life conceived in rape. She plans to hold a “Heroes Welcome Reception” on May 5th at the Downtown Marriott in Jackson. There Myers will honor the moms who gave life to their children following a tragic rape. “People who attend are welcome to talk to these moms and hear their stories face to face,” she said.

The day following the reception, Myers said they will hold a 9:30 Press Conference inside the state Capital. Then around noon, the rally will kick off with an Honor for Life Award Ceremony where mothers who chose life after rape from around the country will be flown in to be honored. After that, the march, which Myers said will be prayerful, will commence. Myers said that people who are interested in joining her in Jackson, Mississippi can get information about the event at their website.

    We march for Freedom! We march for Love! We march for life! Mothers and children of rape conception will show the world that Love Wins when Life Wins!

Get more information here: http://freedommarchlifewins.org/

Donald Trump says he is “pro-life” but what does he mean?

Posted in Donald Trump with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on June 18, 2015 by saynsumthn

Bloomberg Business asked Donald Trump if he was pro-life and he said “yes.”

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But asked to expound and he said, “It’s an issue. I mean it’s an issue and it’s a strong issue.

Asked if abortion early in the pregnancy was murder to the Don, he replied,”What I am saying is this. With caveats. Uh Life of the mother, incest, rape – that’s where I stand. So, I’m pro-life but with the caveats. You have to have it with the caveats…”

Asked if a pregnancy happens outside those caveats, Trump stated, “It depends why,” he said.

I’m, pro-life…very simple pro-life,” he said.

His not-so-passionate “pro-life” answer seems to be a change from what he wrote in 2000.

The America We Deserve Trump abortion

In his book, The America We Deserve, Trump devoted three sentences to abortion, claiming to be “pro-choice” but against partial birth abortion.

In 2011, before a crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, D.C. Trump was asked about his pro-choice position and responded, “Who said I’m pro-choice?’

Well, Mr. Trump, in 1999 you told Meet the Press this:

    “Well, I’m very pro-choice. I hate the concept of abortion. I hate it. I hate everything it stands for. I cringe when I listen to people debate the subject. But, you still, I just believe in choice.”

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He went on to say, “I am strongly for choice but I hate the concept of abortion.”

Then in 2011, Trump told Laura Ingram on her radio show, “I’m pro-life.

Trump admitted in a 2011 interview on NBC that he thought there was a “right to privacy” in the Constitution.

This was the basis for the Roe v. Wade court case that led to legalized abortion on demand, which apparently Donald did not know because he asked Savannah Guthrie:

    “Well, that’s a pretty strange way of getting to pro-life. I mean, it’s a very unique way of asking about pro-life. What does that have to do with privacy? How are you equating pro-life with privacy?”

At that time, Savannah Guthrie reminded him of the Roe V Wade decision.

Trump responded, “Look, I’m pro-life. I’ve said it. I’m very strong there. And, I’m strong on pro-life.”

CNN July 2015:

It is apparent that Trump wanted to be identified as against abortion in some cases.

If he is really pro-life though- he will not approve of the slaughter of children for the crimes of their fathers.

I guess, we will have to see what….evolves next.

Black Bishop abandoning Democrat Party still supports aborting children for crime of their fathers

Posted in Black Pastor, Blacks leave Democrat Party with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on January 6, 2014 by saynsumthn

mortonAccording to reports, Bishop Paul S. Morton, Sr. has announced he is abandoning the Democrat Party. For years, African Americans have voted overwhelmingly for any and everybody on the Democratic ticket. However, due to the recent “direction” of Democratic leadership, Bishop Paul S. Morton is taking a stand. “For the first time in my life I’m coming out as an independent!” he states.

“I have been a Democrat since I started voting in America, but this party is getting farther and farther away from what Kingdom people believe. For too long, Democrats have taken our vote for granted but kingdom people have rights too, and don’t want to be taken for granted. We will not just except anything.”

At the 2013 Pastors and Ministry Workers Conference in Nashville, Morton ridiculed the Republican Party’s stance on abortion, “A man rapes you on the street from a demon seed and you’ve got to have that baby from a demon seed, that’s not what God conceived. You’re hav’n your daddy’s baby. [mocking tone] “No we’ve got to have it because we don’t believe in abortion” We don’t believe in abortion but, my God, have some common sense.”

He tells Worship360, “These Republicans are also antagonistic toward women who find themselves in emotionally devastating situations as a result of rape. I don’t believe a woman should be forced to bring a child into the world if she has been raped by her father, or suffered the violent molestation of her body by a complete stranger.There are even times when a woman must decide to terminate because bearing a child would put her life in danger.

By no means am I supporting abortion! I’m definitely “pro-life” but there are certain situations that require careful examination and adjudication. You can’t “blanketly” decide! That’s going too far and it’s not the Kingdom way (God’s way).

At the same time, Democrats have become too liberal. Nothing is sin anymore! If nothing is sin anymore, “WHY” would we need Jesus?
We still acknowledge that it is Jesus who forgives us when we repent of our sins.

America has become arrogant! We ignore God’s Word, and we reject biblical morality. I can’t support what God condemns! God does not condone sexual sin. God does not agree with same sex marriage, adultery, fornication or polygamy.

While I understand that people have the right to make these choices; and while I agree that it is NOT my job to force anyone to stop anything, I do fully embrace my assignment to preach the Kingdom message!
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Morton’s views on whether babies conceived in Rape deserve life would differ from rape conceived survivors like Juda Myers and Rebecca Kiessling among most pro-life people.

You can read stories of rape conception stories here.

When you support abortions for rape and incest what you are really saying is that children should die for the crimes of their fathers. I hope Bishop Morton will see what he is fully advocating and change his views to protect all children no matter what their father’s have done.

As stated very well by Life Dynamics president Mark Crutcher, “There is no such position as “pro-life with exceptions.” It is impossible to accurately label someone pro-life who approves killing certain groups of children such as those conceived in rape or incest. It is as illogical as someone in 1860 saying, ” I am an abolitionist but I believe slavery should be legal in some circumstances.” The only legitimate pro-life position is that an unborn child is morally equivalent to and has the same rights as a born child. When someone says they are pro-life but that abortion should be allowed in some circumstances, the question is whether they would support killing a five-year old in those same circumstances. The bottom line is that when someone says they are “pro-life with exceptions” what they are saying is that they support the “choice” to kill some babies (conceived in rape, handicapped, etc.) but oppose the “choice” to kill other babies. In other words, the only honest way to define that position is “pro-choice with exceptions.”

Rick Perry ” I will always stand for life !” except for the unborn baby in the womb of a rape/incest victim ?

Posted in Abortion, Politics with tags , , , , , , , , , on September 23, 2011 by saynsumthn

Perry on forcing HPV vaccines on children:

According to LifeSite news:
After Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s office said the GOP presidential frontrunner does not oppose all abortions, drawing fire from a right to life advocate, one Texas pro-life group is insisting that the statement only reflects the governor’s acceptance of incremental pro-life legislation.

Katherine Cesinger, the State Press Director for RickPerry.org, told Maryland pro-life leader John Lofton in a recent email forwarded to LifeSiteNews.com that “Gov. Perry is pro-life, with exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.”

Lofton, an editor for The American View, told LifeSiteNews.com that the statement proved that portrayals of Gov. Perry as totally pro-life are misleading. “He is repeatedly characterized as pro-life everywhere,” said Lofton, who criticized Perry in a press release this week highlighting Cesinger’s statement.

Pro-life leaders in Texas responded, arguing they have not been wrong to endorse Perry as a thoroughly pro-life candidate.

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