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Late term abortion doc expressed ethical questions about way aborted fetal tissue is procured

Posted in Aborted Baby Body Parts, Planned Parenthood sells aborted baby parts with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on July 20, 2015 by saynsumthn

A late term abortionist once admitted that he has ethical questions about the way fetal tissue is procured stating that he did not want to offer women the option to donate their late term aborted babies for research because pressure to change his procedures to “procure” the baby parts.

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Abortionist Warren Hern, who operates the Boulder Abortion Clinic in Colorado made the statements in a 1989 interview with the New York Times.

Warren Hern late term abortion clinic

Hern, who once got upset that the BBC called aborted children “unborn child” and offers women private burial services, uses the abortion method of dilation and evacuation (D+E).

According to the article

    Hern said that although he favors the use of fetal tissue in research, he has lingering ethical questions about the way it is procured.


    He said that a couple of years ago he was repeatedly asked to supply the tissue by a group that has since stopped procuring fetal tissue. ”I finally started throwing their letters away unanswered,” Dr. Hern said.

    Warren Hern aborted baby research fetal tissure

    He said the group suggested that he vary the amount of suction he used in abortions, which bothered him.

    I probably makes no difference to the woman, but I’m reluctant to do anything that would add length or discomfort to the abortion process,” he said.

In addition, Hern told the New York Times that an overriding reason why he does not want to procure fetal tissue is the ‘‘unbelievable harassment” he gets from “anti-abortion” groups.

Although Hern had ethical questions about “procuring” aborted babies for medical research he had no qualms killing those same children.

Warren Hern third trimester abortion

In fact, Yahoo Parenting once highlighted a woman who claimed that she paid an abortion doc $25K to “euthanize” a 36 week unborn baby.

The article then names Hern’s clinic as the place where the woman killed her child, writing:

It was a four-day procedure, and I had to have it done by Friday, when I would be 36 weeks pregnant. There is no doctor in the country who performs abortions after 36 weeks.”

25K abortion

Then she added, “You have to show up with $25,000.

She continued:

“So I called the Boulder Abortion Clinic in Colorado. We scheduled everything we needed to… It was a very, very difficult day. Euthanizing the baby is, obviously, a very hard thing to do. After the injection, he asked how I was feeling, and I just said, “I feel so sad. I’m going to miss her.”

Read more on that here.

This week a top Planned Parenthood abortion doctor was caught on tape trafficking in aborted baby body parts. The trade appears to be something that happens in other abortion clinics as well.

In fact, the harvesting of aborted baby parts is not new as evidenced by that same 1989 New York Times article:

    privately financed research, often involving transplants of fetal tissue into animals and people, is carried out at places like the University of Colorado Medical Center in Denver and Hana Biologics, a company in Alameda, Calif.

In 1989, the Times reported that the largest supplier of fetal tissue was the Institute for the Advancement of Medicine, in Effington, Pa.

James W. Bardsley, president of the institute, said he provides scientists with 300 to 600 specimens a month from 150 to 300 fetuses,” the Times wrote.

Bardsley told the Times that he sends employees to abortion clinics three to five days a week to process fetal tissue and pays the abortion facilities rental fees of $500 to $600 a month when his employees are at clinics for several days a week and $1,000 a month when they are there every day.

According to that 1989 article:

    Another leading supplier is Dr. Thomas Shepard, a professor of pediatrics, obstetrics and environmental health at the University of Washington in Seattle, who is supported with Federal money to collect about 600 fetuses a year…estimated that he has obtained about 10,000 fetuses in the past 26 years.


The New York Times continues:

    But, Dr. Caplan [Dr. Arthur Caplan, a co-director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Minnesota] said, about 90 percent of researchers get fetal tissue through private arrangements with abortion clinics or gynecologists. He added that it is not known how much fetal tissue these researchers use.

    One indication that women do not always give informed consent before their fetuses are used in research is Mr. Bardsley’s experience. About a year ago, he said, he began insisting that clinics and hospitals that supplied him with fetal tissue ask the women first if they wanted to donate the fetal tissue. About half of Mr. Bardsley’s suppliers refused and no longer provide him with tissue, he said.

    Some of the clinics were just too busy,” Mr. Bardsley said. ‘‘They did not want to initiate a change like that. They thought it would be too much of a burden.” Many hospitals, he said, ”did not want to have anything to do with changing their consent policies,” adding, ”They felt that would bring it to the attention of the patients and that would be bad public relations.”


Abortionist James J. Parks, who was once accused by another abortion doctor of assembling an old fashioned meat grinder and using it to grind the fetuses in his clinic, told the NY Times that he supplies fetal tissue to researchers at the University of Colorado.

Curtis Stover Meat Grinder Affidavit


The New York Times article confirms the fact that manipulating abortion procedures, a point made by Dr. Deborah Nucatola, is nothing new.

In the Planned Parenthood video, you can hear Nucatola say how she will crush above or below in order to preserve the specific organ from the suffering unborn baby she is in the process of ripping apart in the womb.


According to the 1989 article, Bardsley admitted that he looks for abortion clinics or doctors who use particular abortion methods in the second trimester.

    They cannot inject the fetus with saline, urea or other substances to kill it before the abortion because then the fetal tissue would not be usable. Instead, the abortion must be done by dilation and evacuation, in which the doctor essentially pulls the fetus out of the anesthesized woman.

The article continues:

    To get usable tissue during the first trimester of pregnancy, Mr. Bardsley encourages doctors to use ultrasound to find the fetus in the woman’s uterus and then to use special suction abortion techniques, varying the amount of suction ”to try to trap the embryo in the catheter,” he said.

    A Florida doctor…said he has procured fetuses for Mr. Bardsley by using a suction abortion technique he developed that allows him to extract intact first-trimester fetuses 80 percent of the time. Abortions using this method take 15 to 25 minutes instead of the usual 5 to 7 minutes, the doctor said.

The unnamed abortionist admits that the procedure used to obtain the fetal body parts takes extra time than doing a regular abortion would.



Although the term “tissue” can involve a number of pathological or biological specimens, the recently release Planned Parenthood undercover video by the Center for Medical Progress showed that the largest abortion chain was operating a grisly ABORTED BABY body parts operation.

A glance at additional websites reveal that the practice may not be isolated.

Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast’s website:

Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast aborted tissue

“Biologic Sample Acquisition” for “Donated Fetal Tissue” and under “Additional Areas of Interest” they have “Tissue/Biologics Collection”

Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast aborted tissue 2


And at Planned Parenthood Southwest and Central Florida, Inc.’s website we learn that minor can donate “tissue samples.”

Planned Parenthood Southwest minors aborted baby body parts tissue donation

    While oftentimes a minor’s health care decisions are made by a parent or guardian, there are certain situations where minors can make their own healthcare decisions independent of parental or guardian knowledge or consent. Such situations are heavily regulated by law and include minors who have become emancipated, minors who are donating blood or tissue samples and minors who are independently seeking examination and treatment for a sexually transmissible disease.

Planned Parenthood Southern New Jersey’s website tells patients that they may use or share a patient’s personal info to discuss “Respond to organ and tissue donation requests”:

Planned Parenthood SOuthern NJ tissue donations

A Planned Parenthood of North Florida HIPPA form says that Health information may also be used and disclosed for organ, eye, or tissue donation purposes:

Planned Parenthood North Florida tissue donations abortion

Mother paid abortion doc $25K to “euthanize” 36 week unborn baby

Posted in Late term abortion, Warren Hern with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on April 30, 2015 by saynsumthn

Yahoo Parenting writer Rachel Bertsche asks, “‘What Kind of Mother Is 8 Months Pregnant and Wants an Abortion?

Rachel Bertsche late term abortion Warren Hern Colorado

The question is soon answered as Bertsche recounts the story of a woman named Kate, who aborted her baby, she would later name Rose at 36 weeks because of a “brain malformation“.

Kate recounts the day she confirmed the baby’s condition:

    “It was a morning appointment, and at the end of that day we met with the neurologist, who told us that our baby had Dandy-Walker malformation, the most severe presentation of the syndrome. It basically meant there were holes in her brain. She also had agenesis of the corpus callosum, which meant the bridge between the two hemispheres of her brain didn’t grow. So we had two malformations, each of which had a wide range of outcomes, but, combined, had a horrible prognosis. The doctor said, “We expect your baby to have moderate to severe mental retardation; she’s going to have moderate to severe physical disability; she is probably never going to walk or talk; she will possibly never be able to lift her head; she is going to have seizures all of the time.”

She then decides to have an abortion and writes:

    It was a four-day procedure, and I had to have it done by Friday, when I would be 36 weeks pregnant. There is no doctor in the country who performs abortions after 36 weeks.”

25K abortion

Then she added, “You have to show up with $25,000.”

WOW – $25,000 to kill a human child?

Kate continued:

    “So I called the Boulder Abortion Clinic in Colorado. We scheduled everything we needed to… It was a very, very difficult day. Euthanizing the baby is, obviously, a very hard thing to do. After the injection, he asked how I was feeling, and I just said, “I feel so sad. I’m going to miss her.

Warren Hern late term abortion clinic

The Boulder Abortion Clinic is operated by late term abortion doctor Warren Hern shown proudly on his website image above.

Here Kate describes the counseling and how she will euthanize her child, a term society uses to destroy animals:

    “The whole first day was counseling and testing to make sure it was safe to do the procedure. They want to make sure you completely understand what is going to happen and that no one is pressuring you into the decision. At the end of the day, I signed all the paperwork, and the doctor injected the baby with a drug that, over a few hours, slowed her heart to still. It was a very, very difficult day. Euthanizing the baby is, obviously, a very hard thing to do. After the injection, he asked how I was feeling, and I just said, “I feel so sad. I’m going to miss her.”

Excerpts of Kate’s story below talk about the hours her unborn 36 week baby held onto life and the moment Kate confirmed that the hired assassin she paid had done his job :

    “My husband and I went back to the hotel and I lay down until she stopped moving. I could tell when she was gone. It feels very different. The second and third days were short appointments, so we took a nice drive through the Rockies to pass the time. Then on the fourth day, they induced my labor. I got Pitocin, and it was actually a very natural birth. It was quite healing for me. I couldn’t do anything for this baby — I couldn’t fix her brain or make her well, but I could deliver her from my body. I chose to view her, so they cleaned her up and brought her in and she looked a lot like my older daughter. She was beautiful and she was whole. I got her footprints and had her cremated and they sent us her ashes in the mail a few days later. We wanted to name her after a flower, so we called her Rose.

    “Ten days after we had that 35-week ultrasound, she was gone.

    “Late in my pregnancy, my older daughter would say, “Mama do you have a baby in your belly?” and I would say, “Yes honey! Want to give her a kiss?” After I got home, I knew she would ask, so I waited for that moment. When it came, my daughter put her hand on my stomach and said it: “Mama, do you have a baby in your belly?” And I said, “No, honey. Baby died. Baby’s all gone.”

    “I told people that the baby died and that we induced a stillbirth. I didn’t tell them I went to Colorado. I didn’t tell them the baby died because we gave her an injection.”

Such a sick and twisted story it makes me sick to my stomach to read how a mother would execute her own daughter because she was “not normal” in her eyes!

You can read the entire story here.

Peter Singer decade of controversy: Infanticide and Death Panels?

Posted in Abortion, Animal Rights, Death Panels, Eugenics, Holdren, Infanticide, Maafa21, Peter Singer with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on October 27, 2009 by saynsumthn

Peter Singer reflects on a decade at Princeton
The Daily Princetonian By Jason Jung
Published: Monday, October 26th, 2009

When bioethics professor Peter Singer joined Princeton’s faculty in fall 1999, he expected “good students” and “good seminars,” but he never anticipated the backlash: a large-scale protest against his appointment that included the arrest of 14 activists outside Nassau Hall on Sept. 21, 1999.

Over the course of his first 10 years at Princeton, Singer, whom many view as the most influential applied ethics theorist in the world, has been a divisive figure, garnering attention from alumni, students and faculty who disagree with his controversial opinions and from those who laud his academic prowess and his openness to alternate viewpoints.

While Singer is largely praised for his work pioneering the modern animal rights movement, affirming moral obligations to alleviate extreme poverty and defending nonviolent civil disobedience, he has created controversy with his views on infanticide, abortion and medical treatment of the severely disabled, said former politics professor George Kateb, who chaired the search committee that recruited Singer.

When it comes to killing, I do believe that beings have different interests in continuing to live,” Singer said in an interview with The Daily Princetonian last week. “I think killing a being that wants to continue to live and has designs for the future is very different from killing those that do not.”

Kateb said that though he thought Singer sometimes “went too far” with his arguments dealing with death, the decision to hire the Australian philosopher was the right one.

The protest against Singer’s appointment in 1999 involved hundreds of demonstrators, who blocked the entrances to Nassau Hall for hours. The disability rights advocacy group Not Dead Yet organized the protest, which was aimed at the University for hiring Singer rather than at the professor, said Stephen Drake, a research analyst for the organization.

This was somebody they sought out in particular for his provocative views,” Drake said. “Part of our demands at that time was that they threw out their commitment to community principles, and we asked them to admit it.”

Drake added that he takes issue with Singer “as a polemicist,” not in his role as a philosopher.

People with disabilities need to be treated with the same respect and with the same values as the rest of the population,” he said. “It’s that simple. Peter Singer disagrees with it. Not only does he disagree with that, what he’s suggesting is changing public policy. He’s out there not as an expert trying to give an objective opinion. He’s out there trying to push his own agenda. How we viewed Singer then is how we view him now.

Singer said he and then-acting University president Harold Shapiro GS ’64 also received death threats during the first few months after his appointment.

Shapiro said the death threat did not faze him. “You get all kinds of mail when you’re the head of an organization, some of which is very insulting and very threatening and so on,” Shapiro said.

But Singer said the threat was worrisome, though he wouldn’t leave because of it. “Obviously I was concerned, but I also felt that you can’t give in to that kind of stuff,” Singer explained. “You have to continue to stand up for things you believe in. I certainly wasn’t going to go back to Australia or change my views, so there wasn’t really much choice.”

Singer’s appointment also created waves of controversy among alumni, some of whom even said they would not donate any more money to the University as long as Singer served on its faculty.

I don’t agree with Princeton’s policy of promoting professors regardless of their worldview,” said Alan Moore ’71, a retired medical academic who stopped donating money to the University 10 years ago because of Singer’s appointment. Moore had worked with pediatric intensive care units trying to save infants and he said he took specific issue with Singer’s views on infanticide.

Princeton’s point of view I find morally repugnant,” he explained. “I can guarantee you that if there were a world-famous scholar that called for the extermination of all Jews, Princeton wouldn’t hire the professor. Princeton just accepts infanticide as a valid point of view. Only in an Eastern, liberal ivory tower setting can he espouse such a view.

Longtime donor and former trustee Steve Forbes ’70 also stopped giving money to the University as a result of Singer’s arrival on campus. Forbes could not be reached for comment.

On the other hand, Jennifer DePalma ’96, a philosophy major when she was an undergraduate, said she supported Princeton’s defense of academic freedom.

When you’re looking at the top schools, most of them are really, really good at giving their students access to any side of the political spectrum or whatever spectrum you’re looking at,” DePalma said. “They’re just trying to give access to as many different ways of thinking as they can. There’s a difference between that and Princeton saying they support infanticide.”

Shapiro said that, though he hadn’t expected the degree of opposition the University faced, the decision to invite Singer to join the faculty was a positive one for the intellectual life of the community.

A university is a place that is at all times questioning the values we have, not just committing to the views we have,” Shapiro explained. “One of the roles of a university is to question existing arrangements and maybe suggest better ways of going about things, of thinking about things. The notion that we should only appoint someone who signs up for a set of values is antithetical to the goals of a university. This would be a dull place if everyone thought the same way.”

He added, however, that Singer’s controversial views were not “part of the discussion” about whether to hire him. The appointment was approved because of the high recommendations given by “philosophers all over the world advising us about the nature of his work,” he added.
Despite the controversy, those responsible for hiring Singer stand by their choice.

It is, personally speaking, one of the very best things I’ve done in my academic life,” Kateb said. “If I were told beforehand that it would arouse all this anger … I still would have done it.”

Shapiro also said he does not regret approving Singer’s appointment. “My own assessment after having him as a colleague for 10 years is that it was and remains a terrific appointment,” he said. “His teaching is excellent, his work with students is terrific, he puts himself out to his students, he’s not at all rigid in his classes, and he encourages alternative points of view in his classes, or at least that’s what students tell me.”

Singer has also made a distinct impact on many current and former students, who said the philosopher has impressed and inspired them.
Will Fisher ’10 said he became a vegan three years ago after taking Singer’s freshman seminar, Ethics in Everyday Life, and has remained one since.
“I kind of had a coming of age of what the world was like,” Fisher said. “With regard to animal rights, we make decisions three times a day. You can’t deny that what you do every morning, every lunch and every dinner really has a serious effect.”

Fisher said that though some of Singer’s conclusions may be radical, the ethicist’s logic is “really good.”

He said, for example, that dealing with death as a moral concept is more complex than it may seem. Though many people would agree that “killing an innocent person is bad,” most people would say it would be justifiable to shoot down a man if “somebody put 20 pounds of explosives in his backpack, he doesn’t know it, and he’s about to walk into a crowded mall,” he added.

We actually hold a lot of convictions that he holds,” he said. “We just don’t think about it very rationally, and I think he’s very good at drawing it out.”

Singer said that he teaches philosophy with the aim of inspiring students to examine their actions and lives.

The overall goal is to stimulate people to think more deeply about ethical issues than they did before,” he explained. “I think most Princeton students would have thought about many of these issues on a fairly superficial level. I want to challenge them to think more deeply, to see the issues as something worth serious thought. If in fact it leads to some students thinking about the way they want to live, that’s a big bonus.”

Rik Sengupta ’12, a student in Singer’s only class this semester, CHV 310: Practical Ethics, said he was impressed by the rigor of the professor’s arguments.

“His sense of logic is impeccable,” Sengupta said. “They just follow mathematically. In terms of the logical structure he uses, you cannot argue with him. If there’s anything wrong, it would have to be his original assumptions.”

Though some students in the class said Singer presents biased arguments during his lectures, others insisted that he makes an effort to represent contrary views.

Kalila Minor ’11, another student in Practical Ethics, said that Singer invites academics who disagree with him to come to lectures to debate with him about issues such as abortion.

I was impressed with the extent to which he included opposing viewpoints,” she explained.

Outside classes, Singer also gives talks to student groups, invites visiting speakers and participates in discussions hosted by the Center for Human Values several times each semester, he said. Singer has also published several books in the past 10 years, including “The Life You Can Save: Acting Now to End World Poverty” earlier this year.

Singer said that though many philosophy professors focus on research, he has other goals as well.

[I] want to do some research and make some contributions to original topics, but it’s also important to connect with people, to try to get them to think more about ethical issues, to try to contribute to some shifts in the culture on major ethical questions,” he said. “It’s a dual role.”

Ten years after the protest sparked by his appointment, Singer said he has found University students and faculty to be “very open-minded.”

I think [Princeton] is a challenging place,” he added. “Over these 10 years, I don’t think it’s changed much really. I think the debates were good to start with. If anything, they’ve gotten better.”

Editor’s note
Due to an editing error, an earlier version of this article inaccurately referred to protests organized by Not Dead Yet and held at Nassau Hall in September 1999 as violent.
Diane Coleman, president of Not Dead Yet, also told The Daily Princetonian on Monday afternoon that that the group’s members are trained in nonviolence, and that the organization is not aware of any evidence that any of the death threats came from its members.
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August 26, 2008

In the 1970’s President Obama’s Science Czar, Paul Holdren, published many books, several which were co-authored with radical population control guru, Paul Ehrlich. Holdren stated officially that one of his mentors was a Professor he had by the name of Paul Harrison.

Harrison suggested that infanticide was a legitimate form of population control when he wrote this in his book, The Challenge of Man’s Future, from page 87 . ” In the absence of restraint abortion, sterilization, coitus interruptus, or artificial fertility control, the resultant high birth rate would have to be matched at equilibrium by an equally high death rate. A major contribution to the high death rate could be infanticide, as has been the situation in cultures of the past.“

Holdren asked this question in an article authored by him, which was published a book entitled, No Growth Society,

Why, then, should we compound our plight by permitting population growth to continue?” He stated clearly that in the 1970’s the US had already exceeded its “optimum population size of 210 million” (pg. 41) and concluded that , ” it should be obvious that the optimum rate of population growth is zero or negative…“

In the 1970s, as the leading theoretician of animal rights, Peter Singer, Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University and Philosophy coined the term “speciesism” for anyone so narrow-minded as to, “allow the interest of his species to override the greater interest of members of other species“. Singer holds that the right to physical integrity is grounded in a being’s ability to suffer, and the right to life is grounded in the ability to plan and anticipate one’s future. Since the unborn, infants, and severely disabled people lack the ability to plan and anticipate their future, he states that abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia can be justified in certain special circumstances, for instance in the case of severely disabled infants whose life would cause suffering both to themselves and to their parents.

In a question posed to Singer, it was asked:
If you had to save either a human being or a mouse from a fire, with no time to save them both, wouldn’t you save the human being?”

Singer’s answer, ” Yes, in almost all cases I would save the human being. But not because the human being is human, that is, a member of the species Homo sapiens. Species membership alone isn’t morally significant, but equal consideration for similar interests allows different consideration for different interests. The qualities that are ethically significant are, firstly, a capacity to experience something — that is, a capacity to feel pain, or to have any kind of feelings. That’s really basic, and it’s something that a mouse shares with us. But when it comes to a question of taking life, or allowing life to end, it matters whether a being is the kind of being who can see that he or she actually has a life — that is, can see that he or she is the same being who exists now, who existed in the past, and who will exist in the future. Such a being has more to lose than a being incapable of understand this. Any normal human being past infancy will have such a sense of existing over time. I’m not sure that mice do, and if they do, their time frame is probably much more limited. So normally, the death of a human being is a greater loss to the human than the death of a mouse is to the mouse – for the human, it cuts off plans for the distant future, for example, but not in the case of the mouse. And we can add to that the greater extent of grief and distress that, in most cases, the family of the human being will experience, as compared with the family of the mouse (although we should not forget that animals, especially mammals and birds, can have close ties to their offspring and mates). That’s why, in general, it would be right to save the human, and not the mouse, from the burning building, if one could not save both. But this depends on the qualities and characteristics that the human being has. If, for example, the human being had suffered brain damage so severe as to be in an irreversible state of unconsciousness, then it might not be better to save the human

Singer states here that, ” The difference between killing disabled and normal infants lies not in any supposed right to life that the latter has and the former lacks, but in other considerations about killing. Most obviously there is the difference that often exists in the attitudes of the parents. The birth of a child is usually a happy event for the parents. They have, nowadays, often planned for the child. The mother has carried it for nine months. From birth, a natural affection begins to bind the parents to it. So one important reason why it is normally a terrible thing to kill an infant is the effect the killing will have on its parents.

It is different when the infant is born with a serious disability. Birth abnormalities vary, of course. Some are trivial and have little effect on the child or its parents; but others turn the normally joyful event of birth into a threat to the happiness of the parents, and any other children they may have.

Parents may, with good reason, regret that a disabled child was ever born. In that event the effect that the death of the child will have on its parents can be a reason for, rather than against killing it.

When asked the question: Would you kill a disabled baby?

Singer Replied, “Yes, if that was in the best interests of the baby and of the family as a whole. Many people find this shocking, yet they support a woman’s right to have an abortion. One point on which I agree with opponents of abortion is that, from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the fetus and the newborn baby.

With Professors like Singer, Harrison and others teaching our kids at major Universities – do you really believe that National Health Care will not go down the slippery slope to Death Panels and Euthanasia? Just Sayn !