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Texas lawmaker files bill to abolish abortion and ignore Roe

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on January 20, 2019 by saynsumthn

On January 17, 2019 Texas State Representative Tony Tinderholt filed a bill to abolish abortion in the state. HB896 is an, “Act relating to prohibiting abortion and protecting the rights of an unborn child,” and it in essence tells authorities to ignore federal mandates and to protect the preborn child with the force of law as a born child.

Image: State Representative Tony Tinderholt

State Representative Tony Tinderholt

Texas is where the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision which forced unrestricted abortion on demand began.

Roe was a pseudonym for Jane Roe a/k/a/ Norma McCorvey and Wade was Henry Wade, a Dallas district attorney who defended the Texas law, leading, eventually, to the Supreme Court ruling: Roe v. Wade. The Roe V. Wade case and a companion case, Doe v. Bolton were heard by the Supreme Court at the same time. Plaintiffs in both cases, Norman McCorvey (Jane Roe) and Sandra Cano (Mary Doe) claim they were lied to, manipulated and deceived.

In 1969, Norma McCorvey became pregnant and after meeting pro-abortion attorney Sarah Weddington, on March 17, 1970 she signed the affidavit which catapulted Roe into being. The case was first filed in Dallas on behalf of plaintiff Jane Roe and all other women “who were or might become pregnant and want to consider all options.”

Image: Texas abortion law challenge 1970

Texas abortion law challenge 1970

At the time, in Texas, abortions were prohibited except to save the pregnant woman’s life. But, on June 17, 1970 the three-judge federal panel struck down the Texas abortion statute.

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The case was brought to the Supreme Court on the basis that Norma McCorvey, the Roe in the case was raped and needed an abortion. The fact is that she was never raped and never wanted an abortion. In fact, Norma later became pro-life and sought to overturn the infamous decision.

Doe v. Bolton, the companion case to Roe, opened the door for abortion on demand by allowing the “health of the mother” exception” to be defined however the doctor chose.

Image: Sandra Cano was Doe in the Doe v Bolton Supreme Court abortion case

Sandra Cano was Doe in the Doe v Bolton Supreme Court abortion case

Testimony from Sandra Cano the Former Doe of Doe v. Bolton, before the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Senate Judiciary Committee June 23, 2005 showed that, like the Roe case, she never wanted an abortion.

Roe v Wade was argued for the first time before the Supreme Court on December 13, 1971 but because of new appointments to the Court, the case was reargued a second time on October 11, 1972 before the full nine-man court in, conjunction with Doe v. Bolton.

Image: Supreme Court at time Roe v Wade legalized abortion (Image credit: Oyez)

Supreme Court at time Roe v Wade legalized abortion (Image credit: Oyez)

The cases were decided January 22, 1973.

In 1998, McCorvey told marchers at the March for Life, “I lied and I’m sorry, I’ve repented, I’ve asked Jesus into my heart…”

Image: Norma McCorvey who was Jane Roe of Roe v Wade becomes pro-life

Norma McCorvey who was Jane Roe of Roe v Wade becomes pro-life

Neither McCorvey nor Cano lived to see abortion end.

ABOLISHING ABORTION IN TEXAS:

Image: State Representative Tony Tinderholt

State Representative Tony Tinderholt

Texas state Representative Tony Tinderholt’s measure would amend the Texas penal code for the “Rights of a Living Child” to read, “A living human child, from the moment of fertilization on fusion of a human spermatozoon with a human ovum. The proposal states that the preborn child, “[I]s entitled to the same rights, powers, and privileges as are secured or granted by the laws of this state to any other human child.”

The proposed law would add to the Government code the following abortion enforcement, “The attorney general shall monitor this state’s enforcement of Chapters 19 and 22, Penal Code, in relation to abortion. The attorney general shall direct a state agency to enforce those laws, regardless of any contrary federal law, executive order, or court decision.”

The state’s local code would be amended to read that, “The governing body of a political subdivision of this state shall ensure that the political subdivision enforces Chapters 19 and 22, Penal Code, in relation to abortion, regardless of any contrary federal law, executive order, or court decision.”

It amends the penal code to apply even if the conduct [ the abortion] is “committed by the mother of the unborn child, the procedure performed by a physician or other licensed health care provider, including a procedure performed as part of an assisted reproduction as defined by 160.102, Family Code; or the dispensation of a drug.”

IGNORING ROE:

Rep. Tinderholt’s measure clarifies that all changes apply only to acts committed on or after the measure takes effect and it requires that the State Constitution would override the Supreme Court decision in Roe as well as any other federal mandate:

Any federal law, executive order, or court decision that purports to supersede, stay, or overrule this Act is in violation of the Texas Constitution and the United States Constitution and is therefore void. The State of Texas, a political subdivision of this state, and any agent of this state or a political subdivision of this state may, but is not required to, enter an appearance, special or otherwise, in any federal suit challenging this Act.

To monitor the bill’s status, go here.

The measure follows calls for Texas Governor Greg Abbott to keep his promise to abolish abortion in the state. That promise was made to sixteen year old Jeremiah Thomas who passed away last year from cancer. Thomas’s dying wish that Texas abolish abortion made headlines and Governor Abbott told the dying teen, “Your wish is on the Republican Party platform positions, and it’s what we’re going to be pursuing this next legislative session.  And that is to outlaw abortion altogether in the State of Texas. And, so your wish is granted.”

 

 

Jeremiah’s parents, published an online petition to invite others to join Jeremiah’s wish by urging Governor Abbott to keep his promise by making abolishing abortion an emergency item for the State legislature.

Rep. Tinderholt was placed under protection following a 2017 attempt to criminalize abortions in the state, which resulted in several threats.

 

 

Measures to abolish abortion have also been proposed in Oklahoma. Senator Joseph Silk claims he was a “Typical pro-lifer,” until he “bumped into these crazy Abolitionists.”

Abolitionist and pro-life groups differ in whether incremental legislation is the correct strategy for abolishing abortion.

Senate Bill 13 (SB13), known as the Abolition of Abortion in Oklahoma Act, would equate abortion with homicide in Oklahoma, Sen. Silk claimed in the video below.

Shortly after the 1973 Supreme Court ruling on abortion, pro-lifers attempted to pass a complete ban on abortion via a Human Life Amendment. Those efforts were sadly defeated. Since that time, pro-life groups have worked to pass incremental legislation to protect the child in the womb. Those measures include the Heartbeat Bill, 20-week bans, parental consent requirements, an many others.

Abolitionists via their Free the States campaign are seeking to convince local governing authorities to “Ignore Roe” and protect the child in the womb.

Complete abolishment of abortion efforts come as pro-life measures like the Heartbeat bill which would outlaw abortion as early as six weeks, when the fetal heartbeat can be detected, are being proposed in several states. As the public demands tighter restrictions on abortion, pro-abortion forces are growing desperate and working to open the flood gates for home or mail order abortion pills. At the same time, new appointments to the Supreme Court are causing both sides to ask whether Roe will stand in coming months.

The humanity of the preborn child in the womb is impossible to deny. Today, ultrasound images, fetal monitors, sonograms and abortion victim imagery testify to the fact that the baby in the womb is a developing person which should be protected under the US Constitution as any other person. The analogy to other past dark times in history, such as slavery, when humans were not granted their God-given rights motivate pro-lifers and abolitionists alike.

Both want abortion abolished, both say their strategy is best, hanging in the balance is the preborn child.

Abortion supporter “I hope your daughter gets raped”

Posted in Pro-choice Logic with tags , , , , on March 10, 2016 by saynsumthn

When this abortion supporter on the campus of the University of Arizona encountered opposition to the killing of children in the womb- his response was to say that, “I Hope your daughter gets raped” to the protester showing him what abortion looks like.

Why would he want a the man’s daughter to be raped?

So HER FATHER would know how it feels to have someone he loved – raped!

Really?

Why does this kind of logic from the abortion lobby not shock me?

I support the ban on all abortion because I AM pro-life !

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , , , , on March 9, 2016 by saynsumthn

For several days there have been people in Oklahoma asking for abortion to be banned.

As I wrote yesterday, a law was proposed by the group Abolish Human Abortion. I know them well. I have debated them on this blog, on social media and in person. I have attended their meetings and listened to their views and every time I walked away unable to sign onto what they were doing.

My issues included their unrelenting criticism of the Pro-life Movement, for which many of them were not only uninvolved in, but sat out in apathy.

But, today, despite some who continue to throw attacks at pro-life leaders and this movement, today they have convinced 10 Oklahoma legislators to sign onto an all out ban on abortion (SB1118).

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The bill goes beyond what we have previously seen proposed such as the Heartbeat Bill.

When I supported the Heartbeat Bill, I did so knowing that it was opposed by some as bad strategy. My friend Janet Folger Porter stood almost alone in pushing for this legislation and I respect her for doing it. She has lost many pro-life friends for exposing those who refuse to protect a child from the moment their heartbeat begins.

When I took part in the Rescues in the 1980’s, I supported that movement despite the fact that many criticized it as bad strategy. Now, I cannot sit here and remain silent on what I see occurring in Oklahoma this week.

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Perhaps, like me, you have been turned off by AHA. Perhaps, like me, you have listened to what I know to be an inaccurate account of our history. Perhaps…

But – the ones I see speaking out are not just what I would call the AHA Leaders. They are moms and dads – young people. The message is simple NO ABORTION!

I have called myself pro-life for over 30 years. That means, I oppose abortion. Strategy or not – I am going to oppose abortion – All Abortion! I am not going to stay silent and watch simple people with a simple message that I believe to be true be ignored. I understand strategy -but- I also understand that it is not right to ignore what is happening. Maybe- just maybe this will backfire – or – maybe God will use it. That will be in God’s hands.

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This is not any kind of an announcement that I am an “abolitionist” no – I still have issues with what I see spoken in that movement.

Instead this is one simple pro-life women saying – good job – I support you to those who are courageously standing up for an abortion ban. I stand with you! I am Pro-Life and I will stand FOR Life! It is and has been my position.

In addition, I am going to encourage any lawmaker that is willing to say NO ABORTIONS.

And….I am not going to bash those who disagree with me on this.

To my pro-life friends, If all we trust in is what we have done before – we will never move forward. The sad reality is that a new SCOTUS majority may also strike our gains…anything can happen.

I respect the position of many of those who lead my beloved movement – I understand the sweat and hard work of everything we have accomplished.

But, all I know is that today- there is a call to ban abortion.

Tomorrow belongs to God and these children are in His hands….

“Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.” ~ James 4:17.

Put differences aside to end abortion and be our brother’s keeper

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , , , , on March 8, 2016 by saynsumthn

What does it mean to be “my brother’s keeper?” This question has been asked time and again by Christians over the years. It played out in the first pages of the Holy Bible when we read how Cain killed Abel (Genesis 4:9) :

    Afterward the LORD asked Cain, “Where is your brother? Where is Abel?”
    “I don’t know,” Cain responded. “Am I my brother’s guardian?”

In this story Cain was jealous that God chose the sacrifice of his brother Abel over his – so he murdered his own brother. But, can we in effect do the same thing with our neglect to do what is right to help our brother? What happens if our inaction brings about more years of suffering for our brother?

Charles Spurgeon, the feisty preacher credited by some for bringing great revivals in the 1800’s once asked, “What say we of those who never sow? Well, they will never reap; they will never have the joy of harvest.”

In his history of the Pro-life movement from the viewpoint of the early church, Dr. George Grant described the effectiveness of the church with regard to protecting life and the secret for success:

    “The church was only effective in its task of protecting innocent life when it remained steadfast in doctrinal purity and Scriptural fidelity. Whenever it began to slide into comfortable heresies of the day, it became compromised and impotent. But whenever it would “earnestly contend for the faith once and for all delivered to the Saints” (Jude 3). God blessed its efforts gloriously. Whenever and wherever it took its every cue from the dictates of the sovereign God, it was remarkably successful.

So simple are these words that I often think some of us have become so embattled we can forget that the goal is to simply stand for truth, protecting life. Grant, considered at one time a giant in the pro-life movement and whose historical documentation dated 1991 when the call was to rescue those being led to the slaughter also writes:

    “As a single interest group the pro-life movement has failed. As a political force it has proven to be a disappointment. As an institutional philanthropic enterprise, it has been more than a little impotent. But, as an outreach of the historic church, it has had stunning success. The modern pro-life movement has proven that commitment to the sanctity of life is the consequence of the Spirit’s work in the authentic sacramental church.”

Keeping this in mind it becomes important to remember that the work of the Spirit belongs to the Spirit. He is the one who puts it forward and the one that should get the glory. And, if this is my belief as it is yours, why couldn’t we support an all out ban on abortion even if it comes from those once known for their criticism of our very movement? Well…such a bill exists and as Christian News has recently reported and as Saynsumthn has also documented, it was proposed by the group Abolish Human Abortion, which has been very contentious with the “pro-life movement” regarding immediate versus incremental methods to end abortion.

Oklahoma State Senator Joseph Silk, sponsor of S.B. 1118, which includes "abortion" under the murder statutes.

Oklahoma State Senator Joseph Silk, sponsor of S.B. 1118, which includes “abortion” under the murder statutes.

    Sen. Joe Silk, R-Broken Bow, recently introduced S.B. 1118 which adds killing an unborn child to existing murder statutes.

    “No person shall perform or induce or attempt to perform or induce an abortion after conception,” it reads. “A person commits murder in the first degree when that person performs an abortion as defined by Section 1-745.5 of Title 63 of the Oklahoma Statutes.”

    The bill defines abortion as “the use or prescription of any instrument, medicine, drug or any other substance or device to intentionally kill an unborn human being” and provides the unborn with protection from the moment of conception.

My personal goal is to see abortion end in our nation- through whatever means God chooses to use. He chooses to use His people – all of us – if we so choose. That is why I would like to get behind any effort that seeks to protect our preborn neighbors.

As was the day when slavery existed in the world – we saw incredible bravery as individuals rose up to cry for an end to the slave trade. America was rich with defenders of the slave from the outspoken William Garrison to former slaves themselves like Frederick Douglas we heard time and again how the cry rang on “No compromise with slavery.”

The abolitionists often pierced the hearts of those in their day with the simple message asked by Jesus “Who is my brother?” Imergery from that era showed the enslaved Black man asking: “Am I not a man and a brother?”

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Dietrich Bonhoeffer defines “who is our brother” in the Cost of Discipleship where he writes:

    “The first law which Jesus commends to His disciples is the one which forbids murder and entrusts their brother’s welfare to their keeping. The brother’s life is a divine ordnance and God alone has the power over life and death. There is no place for the murderer among the people of God…”

Spurgeon also expounds on “who is thy brothers keeper” when he writes in the aforementioned text:

    Shake yourselves up, brothers and sisters, from sinful sloth. “Oh!” says one, “I am not my brother’s keeper.” No, I will tell you your name; it is Cain. You are your brother’s murderer; for every professing Christian, who is not his brother’s keeper, is his brother’s killer;and be you sure that it is so; for you may kill by neglect quite as surely as you may kill by the bow or by the dagger.

As you ponder this history, we look to today as we face the possibility of a Supreme Court that could turn majority hostile to life and we ask, as they did so many times before over the course of history, with whom do we place our trust: in God or in man? If we abandon an opportunity to propose measures that end all abortions because it has not worked before, or it “will never pass” are we being truly honest to our core and our deeply held values? How will history itself play out at this crossroads?

An incident documented in the book Amazing Grace by historian Eric Mextaxas on the life of the great British abolitionist, William Wilberforce, gives us some direction and perhaps insights. It reads as follows:

    When he [Wilberforce] spoke that day urging Parliament to strike from the peace agreement the clause that gave the French five more years of their commerce in human beings, he sounded especially toward the end of his wholly unprepared speech, like what one could well imagine the conscience of the nation might sound:

    When the heads of all those now living are laid low, and the facts which now excite such powerful feeling are related by the pen of the cold, impartial historian, when it is seen that an opportunity like the present has been lost, that the first act of the restored King of France was the restoration of a trade in slavery and blood, what will be the estimate formed of the exertions which this country has employed, of the effect which they have produced upon a people under such weighty obligations? Surely no very high opinion will be indulged either of British influence or of French gratitude.”

Please consider coming together to seek an end to abortion. Let’s put differences aside to be our brother’s keeper!

“We make alliances of peace where we ought to proclaim war to the knife; we plead our constitutional temperament, our previous habits, the necessity of our circumstances, or some other evil excuse as an apology for being content with a very partial sanctification, if indeed it be sanctification at all. We are slow also to rebuke sin in others, and are ready to spare respectable sins, which like Agag walk with mincing steps. The measure of our destruction of sin is not to be our inclination, or the habit of others, but the Lord’s command. We have no warrant for dealing leniently with any sin, be it what it may.” ~ The Treasury of David.

OK ballot initiative seeks to outlaw all abortions

Posted in AHA with tags , , , , , , , , , , , on February 12, 2016 by saynsumthn

A ballot initiative in Oklahoma filed by a Norman resident attempts to outlaw all abortions in the state. Thomas R. Hunter, filed the proposed petition in January with the Secretary of State to amend the Oklahoma State Constitution to “prohibit abortion.”

The proposed amendment, designated as State Question 782, Initiative Petition 406 reads:

    BE IT ENACTED BY THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA THAT THE FOLLOWING
    SECTION BE ADDED TO ARTICLE 2 OF THE OKLAHOMA CONSTITUTION:
    A. As used in this section:
    1. “Abortion” means the use or prescription of any instrument, medicine, drug, or any other substance or device to intentionally kill an unborn human being;
    2. “Unborn human being” means the offspring of human beings from the moment of conception until either live birth or death, including the human conceptus, zygote, morula, blastocyst, embryo and fetus, whether conceived and/or located inside or outside the body of a human female;
    3. “Conception” means the fertilization of the ovum of a female individual by the sperm of a male individual.
    B. It shall be unlawful for any person to perform, procure, or attempt to perform an abortion.
    C. Any person who performs or procures an abortion shall be guilty of homicide.

To get the measure on the ballot in November, Hunter will need to collect 123,725 signatures. But, according to Oklahoma state law any citizen in the state can oppose any petition on the basis that they believe that it the proposal is not Constitutional. Ryan Kiesel, executive director of the pro-abortion ACLU of Oklahoma said his group could launch a protest before the signatures are gathered to keep it off the ballot or challenge it later should the necessary signatures be collected to get it on the ballot.

In response, Hunter told Tulsa World, that “The question is whether or not the Supreme Court ruling that born people have the right to kill unborn people was, in fact, constitutional in the first place.”

“That is what needs to be challenged,” he stated.

“You can search day and night through the Constitution and you will never find one line supporting the idea that human beings can be deprived of the right to live simply because they are small, weak and unwanted,” Hunter added.

In addition to local abortion supporters speaking out against the initiative, 2016 pro-abortion presidential candidate Hillary Clinton also weighed in.

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Hillary for America Senior Policy Advisor Maya Harris called the petition another “unrelenting attack” on women’s rights, according to OkcFox, who received an e-mailed statement from the campaign.

Hillary Clinton believes Oklahoma women have a constitutional right to safe, legal abortion and to contraception, and they deserve to be able to make their health care decisions without interference from government or extreme special interest groups,” Harris wrote, according to the local Fox media outlet.

Banning abortion and common forms of birth control is not only unconstitutional — it is bad for the health of Oklahoma women. This initiative petition should be challenged and, if it makes it on the ballot, rejected by Oklahomans like similar measures have been rejected by voters in other states.”

If the abortion prohibition is not challenged in court, the Secretary of State would set a 90-day window during which proponents would need to gather the needed signatures of registered voters. If successful, the question could be placed on the November ballot.

Hunter, who refers to himself as an Abolitionist, told Saynsumthn that he is not accepting donations or raising any funds to promote his ballot initiative. When asked what others can do to assist him in his effort, he replied that he would like to, “ask people to pray for the state of Oklahoma that the people would repent of child sacrifice and abortion apathy.”

Being in foster care is better than being dead says kid to abortion activist

Posted in AHA with tags , , , , , , , on September 29, 2015 by saynsumthn

Todd Bullis regularly stands outside churches and high schools in Little Elm, Texas to show the reality of abortion.

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He calls himself an abortion abolitionist but is often referred to as the most hated man in the city.

He has been opposed by parents, school staff and even a councilman by the name of Nick Musteen.

Bullis has some unique conversations with students, parents, post-abortive women, and others he agitates with his graphic images of the abortion victims.

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Below is one of those conversations, a discussion with a foster child.

The sweet little girl recently learned that Todd and his wife had several foster kids, prompting her to speak to him.

She tells Bullis that being in foster care is much better than being dead from an abortion.

Watch below:

Man arrested after pointing gun at abortion activist outside Planned Parenthood

Posted in AHA, Guns at abortion clinics, Pro-choice People, pro-choice violence with tags , , , , , , , , , , , on September 16, 2015 by saynsumthn

Chicago abolitionist Troy Buccini stands against abortion regularly outside the Planned Parenthood Aurora IL.

He calls out to men and women who come to the abortion business to kill their unborn children.

Over the weekend, 21 year-old Clifton Ratney, from Indiana who was escorting a woman into the Illinois Planned Parenthood pointed a gun at Buccini while he called out for the life of the child.

My friends don’t bring her before an assassin,” he said as he called out to a man accompanying a women into Planned Parenthood.

“Come on down here sir. Come on, father to father sir,” he said.

It was then that Buccini noticed that Ratney pulled out a gun – pointed it at him – and then walked into the abortion clinic.

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That did not stop Buccini who kept on pleading that they turn around.

Buccini said that after the incident one of the pro-lifers called the police and the man was arrested.

He also said that, as a result, the unborn baby was spared for that day at least.

The Chicago Tribune later reported the Ratney was charged with misdemeanor unlawful use of a weapon and disorderly conduct after locating the loaded gun in his waistband, along with 15 additional rounds of ammunition. The pro-choice man showed police a conceal and carry license which was not good for the state of Illinois where he used the weapon to threaten the activists.

Ratney was escorted out of the Planned Parenthood waiting room and arrested on scene. Despite the seriousness of the threat, Kane County State’s Attorney’s Office has denied any felony charges against the Planned Parenthood supporter.

There have been 2 other gun incidents outside abortion clinics in July where abolitionist and pro-life sidewalk counselors reaching out to women seeking abortion were threatened.

Bristol, Tennessee, police arrested Derrick Doss outside the Bristol Women’s Clinic abortion clinic in Tennessee after he brandished a gun at pro-life demonstrators as he walked into clinic with his girlfriend, while, police in North Carolina refused to arrest another man who pulled out a weapon to threaten abortion abolitionists there.