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Man escorting woman from Planned Parenthood throws sign of preborn child

Posted in AHA, pro-choice violence with tags , , , , , , on June 2, 2016 by saynsumthn

A man who told anti-abortion demonstrators outside a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic that he has “already killed 7” of his kids, turned his anger at the protesters, eventually ripping the sign with the image of a preborn child out of their hands and throwing it across the parking lot.

In the video uploaded to YouTube in April, you hear an abortion Abolitionist ask if the people walking into the clinic know that “this place kills children.” As the man walks to his car with a female, the abortion Abolitionist tells him the “blood of the children are on your hands sir” as he calls out for the man to “repent” and “turn to Jesus Christ.”

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The post-abortive man then gets out of his car, removes his jacket and quickly approaches the Abolitionist. As the demonstrator warns him that he is “being filmed” he proceeds to grab the Abolitionist’s sign.

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The protestors calmly talk to the man who says they made “someone cry.” As the female the man escorted out of the Planned Parenthood approaches, he turns and takes her back to the car. Then the angry abortion supporter returns quickly to the demonstrator telling him to “Shut your F-ing mouth.” He proceeds to rip the sign from the Abolitionist’s hands and throws the poster, which contained the image of a preborn child, across the parking lot.

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The angry abortion supporter then walks back to his vehicle and leaves. You can watch the video below.

Just one more example of the way abortion provokes violence among those who support it.

Planned Parenthood abortion defending woman grabs and kicks sign depicting aborted baby

Posted in AHA, Pro-choice People, pro-choice violence with tags , , , , , , on October 5, 2015 by saynsumthn

A woman from the Abolitionist Society of Tampa took a sign of an abortion victim outside a restaurant to show patrons the reality of child killing from abortion.

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A woman who said she supported Planned Parenthood and abortion became unreasonably upset with the sign and at one point grabbed the sign to throw it in the trash.

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She used all kinds of expletives and when asked if she ever had an abortion, claimed she had not because she got birth control from Planned Parenthood.

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But- when pressured further, she said she was angry because she was sick of Christians shoving their ” F***ing – sh** of Christians shoving their Christian lies” down other people’s throats.

So, to recap, when pro-choice abortion activists get tired of Christians “shoving their views down the throat of others” you should respond by attacking the person who opposes abortion verbally and attempt to destroy their property?

Makes perfect sense – NOT!

Being in foster care is better than being dead says kid to abortion activist

Posted in AHA with tags , , , , , , , on September 29, 2015 by saynsumthn

Todd Bullis regularly stands outside churches and high schools in Little Elm, Texas to show the reality of abortion.

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He calls himself an abortion abolitionist but is often referred to as the most hated man in the city.

He has been opposed by parents, school staff and even a councilman by the name of Nick Musteen.

Bullis has some unique conversations with students, parents, post-abortive women, and others he agitates with his graphic images of the abortion victims.

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Below is one of those conversations, a discussion with a foster child.

The sweet little girl recently learned that Todd and his wife had several foster kids, prompting her to speak to him.

She tells Bullis that being in foster care is much better than being dead from an abortion.

Watch below:

2 gun incidents outside abortion clinics only one arrest

Posted in AHA, Pro-choice law breakers, pro-choice violence with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on July 8, 2015 by saynsumthn

This week there have been two reported incidents where pro-choice men waived a gun at protesters opposing abortion outside abortion clinics, resulting in only one arrest.

Bristol, Tennessee, police arrested Derrick Doss Wednesday just outside the Bristol Women’s Clinic abortion clinic after he brandished a gun at pro-life demonstrators as he walked into clinic with his girlfriend.

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Protesters accuse the abortion advocate of pulling a gun on them but Doss told police he didn’t take the gun out of its holster and removed it from his vehicle because he felt threatened.

The abortion advocate has been charged him with aggravated assault.

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The clinic is the same cite owned by an abortion doctor who threatened pro-lifers with a gun years ago.

Charleston Police arrested abortionist Gary Boyle after he pointed a gun at three abortion protesters near the back entrance of the Charleston’s Women’s Medical Center abortion center in 2010.

According to the police report, Boyle works at the center.

He also practiced at the Bristol Regional Women’s Center in Tennessee where this latest incident occurred.

Meanwhile, police in North Carolina have refused to arrest another man who pulled out a weapon to threaten anti-abortion protesters.

In the video below – you can see the man who was in the parking lot of the A Woman’s Choice abortion clinic in Raleigh pulling out his gun when the demonstrators spoke to him:

A group calling themselves Abolitionists against abortion said the man pulled a pistol as they offered help to him as he drove a woman to the clinic.

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Protesters outside the A Woman’s Choice abortion clinic in Raleigh, North Carolina immediately called police who took 20 minutes to respond they stated.

Police let the armed pro-choice man go, protesters reported, failing to arrest him or charge him with any crimes.

Instead, they claim that days earlier police opened a criminal case on the abolitionist protester at this same location for, “having their sign touching a fence and “blocking the public right of way” with tiny fetal models laying on the grass nearby the curb.”

The video shows below shows Police Captain Corrigan of the Raleigh Police Department, telling the abolitionists that there is nothing to charge the gun brandishing pro-choice man.

The anti-abortion group said that they later observed the offender enter the abortion facility after police removed his handcuffs and let him go. Afterwards they say that police escorted the man to his car and shook his hand.

UPDATE: The Johnson City Press had more on the Bristol Tennessee incident:

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    Police were called to the Bristol Regional Women’s Center on West State Street just before 8 a.m. and learned of an argument between a protester and a patron of the business, Derrick Doss, 32,

    Police said Doss went to his vehicle and retrieved a handgun, which he loaded by racking the slide. Police found Doss with a handgun.

    After gathering evidence and taking witness statements, police charged him with aggravated assault. He was taken to the Sullivan County Jail.

Is Abolish Human Abortion (AHA) an Organization?

Posted in AHA with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on May 20, 2015 by saynsumthn

Following a series of posts from pro-life blogger Jill Stanik regarding a recent debate between a member of Abolish Human Abortion (AHA) and a leader in the Pro-life Movement on the best strategy for ending abortion, some issues were raised regarding the use of fundraising by pro-life groups.

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In her latest post entitled, “Immediatist vs. Incrementalist” debate analysis, Part VII: So fundraising is wrong?, posted to Jill Stanek’s website but written by Clinton Wilcox of the Life Training Institute,the claim is made that Abolish Human Abortion is incorporated, has a for-profit arm through which it sells t-shirts and other wares, and rents office space.

Those who are following this back and forth know that AHA and to a large degree T. Russell Hunter, has been critical of the way pro-life organizations fundraise and pro-lifers had attempted to prove that AHA was being hypocritical, after having done the same themselves.

Jill’s latest blog seemed to strike a nerve, you can read it here and follow the discussion on Facebook after Jill posted this and some other information about AHA’s organization.

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In response, T. Russell Hunter made several statements defending AHA which you can read at Jill Stanek’s Facebook page here:

Here Russell says that his grassroots coalition does not have a full blown legal name:

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(NOTE: After publishing it was corretly pointed out to me that I misquoted Russell above as not having a full blown legal name – instead of “full blown legal and game.” my error.)

Brian Wagnon also weighed in:

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A bone of contention seemed to arise when I posted images of Abolish Human Abortion documents that showed they earned $101,000 in 2013, but I will address that particular document later in this blog.

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Russell, posting as Thomas Hunter, quickly responded accusing me of “knowing this story” – what story?

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Since Russell and then privately Toby Harmon implied that I knew this history of how AHA attempted to form their organization, collected donations, said they were tax exempt, filed for a C3, etc., and then dropped the entire process, I decided to get the full story from their perspective.

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I messaged AHA leader, Don Cooper, about the issue, since he is the one everyone seems to point to regarding all the AHA paperwork. Cooper sent me a detailed timeline and gave me full permission to share EVERYTHING he wrote. I will break this down for you from his perspective and from his notes but in the interest of space, I have edited it down slightly, although all the dates and actual events are included, I have only removed certain non essential comments. If you would like to read the entire timeline in full from Cooper, feel free to request it from him.

FOR THE RECORD: Saynsumthn is not publishing this because I think it was wrong to say that AHA was being hypocritical, but, because it is good to get everything on the table and allow individuals to judge for themselves whether AHA supporters are justified in their criticism of the pro-life movement regarding fundraising.

I am grateful to Cooper for his openness regarding salaries and expenditures and he wanted me to know that he gave me as much detail as he could to the best of his recollection.

It is possible I have some dates slightly off. I did my best to stay objective about everything. It is also possible that my history of “AHA” is not complete but I am pretty sure I got 99.9% of the relevant stuff here, ” Don Cooper told Saynsumthn.

Toby Harmon of Abolish Human Abortion also messaged me with his account and has given me permission to publish his statements publicly, so here it goes.

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Harmon told me, “Nobody is saying that Don Cooper filled out all of that paperwork on his own without permission from quote/unquote AHA leadership. We are saying that at one time we decided to go the organizational route, filled out paperwork to become a 501C3 and about as it was getting approved as a 501C3 we woke up and said no – we’re not going to do this and we cancelled the whole thing.”

Harmon continued, “Now Don [Cooper] still fundraises for his local society…but that is not fundraising for AHA. That doesn’t mean AHA is an organizational model.”

But, not just Cooper’s Society, I have located other Abolitionist Societies with donate buttons currently on their pages like this one in Chicago:

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And this one in Sumner County:

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The Abolitionist Society of El Paso says that they are not a 501c3 organization, but clearly asks for donations online:
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But, asking for donations and raising support by the Abolitionist Societies is approved by AHA as seen in this post:

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Just, not acceptable for pro-lifers as seen here:

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In any event, it is clear from the above statements that Abolish Human Abortion did attempt to form an organization and get a 501C3 which they now say they have backed away from.

Don Cooper has helped me lay out how it transpired:

Timeline of World Life and Abolish Human Abortion (AHA)

According to Cooper’s best recollection the Abolish Human Abortion movement was officially founded in February of 2011. At that time, Don still worked for the Center for Bioethical Reform (CBR). He left CBR in May of 2012.

My research shows that AHA’s first Facebook post was April of 2011.

A post of the group’s blog that same month explained the AHA position thus far:

    We have two great objects: We aim to effect the total abolition of human abortion in our culture and put an end to the objectification of women. Our primary target is not women who have had abortions. It is the prevalent misinformation about abortion within our culture which encouraged and allowed them to do so. We are pro-education. We are pro-women We are pro-children We are pro-adoption We will not rest until we have effected its abolition.

July of 2011 post, “Meeting in progress. Looks like 30+. nice.”

During this time, AHA was not opposed to support from Catholics or pro-life people.

This September 2011 post brags that they received a “boost” from pro-life leader Bryan Kemper.

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Another post encourages supporters to “like” a pro-life Facebook page:

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According to Cooper, by May of 2012, he and Todd Bullis began World Life.

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World Life is a DBA while the organization’s official name is: The Pro-Life Advocate Network (PLAN),” Cooper stated.

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In July of 2012 Cooper says that World Life completed and submitted the application to the IRS for 501C3 non-profit status.

Cooper said that World Life’s first big project was “Pro-Life Book” which was intended to be a tool to help activate and support Christians to get into the fight.

At the time, I recall many pro-lifers joining Pro-life Book as an alternative to YouTube which was known to censor pro-life vids.

Cooper said that by May/June of 2012 the supporters who had been supporting him as a pro-life worker at CBR began supporting him by giving to World Life, mostly friends and family, Cooper said.

In the summer and fall of 2012 – Todd Bullis began interacting with abolitionists in Norman, OK, according to Cooper, and by November 2012 – they attend the first “AHA” (abolitionist) conference held in Norman, OK., where Don said that he became fully convinced that incrementalism is wrong and immediatism was correct.

Cooper says that although he considered himself an Abolitionist he still did work with pro-life groups like Created Equal and that by December of 2012 AHA and WorldLife worked together, even handing out literature at a Jumbtron event in San Francisco with Created Equal.

CREATING AN AHA ORGANIZATION:

Abolish Human Abortion was actively asking for donations and support as confirmed by these screen grabs.

I attempted to locate some of these on the Facebook page, but could not find them. I am not saying they were scrubbed, just that I was unable to locate them.

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By July of 2012, it was suggested by a supporter that Abolish Human Abortion obtain a 501C3, to which they replied in this Facebook comment:

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    “Already on all of that and so much more. We just haven’t spent a whol lot of time trying to raise money or seek funders. Necessary stuff, we know …but we want to spread an ideology rightly, and always asking, “what will make most people happy/ bring in the most support” is a poor way to launch an actual movement.

    “But, so you know, there are a number of Abolitionist Organizations now being established and they are in the process of seeking 501(C)3 and 501(C)4 statuses”.

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In a video uploaded by AHA in November of 2012 Russell Hunter describes AHA as an ideology and not an organization.

Yes you’re sitting in a building, yes we have an office, we have a store, we have a Facebook page, we have a – a whole lot of things – a blog – all that kind of stuff,” Russell says.

Cooper had this to say about the creation of an Abolish Human Abortion Organization:

    February 2013 – April 2013: While there is concern about the dangers or creating an organization that could hinder the movement, there is a consensus that the time is right for the movement to have an organizational tool in the background, a 501C3 organization that would be used to fund larger projects, providing materials to Abolitionist Societies in need, a restoration of the abolitionist periodical called “The Liberator”, and for the few people who would be working full-time on such projects. The idea is proposed to have a “monthly subscription” to the Liberator which would help provide funds for the above items.

In May of 2013, Abolish Human Abortion posts this on their Facebook page:

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    God has blessed this movement in unimaginable ways and we are confident that He will continue to do so through the giving of faithful abolitionists around the world. If you would like to make a tax-deductible donation to AHA (of any size), please follow this link, or click the Support Abolition button across the top of our page: https://dlq4.donatelinq.net/qv10/Donation.aspx…

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Adding this in the comments:

    AHA has now become a separate organizational entity from AHAgear which is owned and operated as an LLC by The Basileian Group. AHAgear is officially licensed by the International Coalition of Abolitionist Societies to use and sell abolitionist gear and resources featuring the abolitionist AHA symbol. But others can use it by permission of ICAS who holds the trademark.”

This screen grab, also from May shows more:

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Cooper said that they had, “long discussions” about what to name the abolitionist C3 organization, “Because “Abolish Human Abortion” has been the name of the movement, there is a hesitancy to use this name for the organization,” Cooper said.

    However after many discussions and lots of prayer, it is decided that really the name of the movement is the “abolitionist movement” and that the organization name could be “Abolish Human Abortion”. It is also recommended by some that since “Abolish Human Abortion” is already a recognized name with history, and that many people already think of it as an organization, that it would make sense to use that inertia in getting the organization going,” Cooper said.

Cooper explained that by June of 2013 World Life’s 501C3 status has not yet been granted by the IRS but was still pending, and according to officials is many months behind.

At this point Cooper said that. “It is then suggested and agreed on that rather than submit a new 501C3 application, we will rename the organization “World Life” to “Abolish Human Abortion”. This would allow us to not have to submit a new application for C3 status which would take longer.”

Cooper said that he saw the decision as, “a sort of official marrying of World Life and AHA. AHA gives its name to World Life and World Life is willing to change the name. The board members agree to this and the name change is submitted to the state of Washington and to the IRS.

In June of 2013 the Liberator subscription idea and C3 organization is announced at the “Wake Up Church” conference in Norman, OK.

The following screen grabs from AHA’s website back up what Cooper says. The pages where these appeared on their websites or online have been removed as best as I can tell:

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According to Cooper, the AHA wanted the message to be that, “the priority of the abolitionist should be to support financially the work locally in their own community. That each abolitionist should be doing all they can in a daily and consistent manner in their own city. Then after that they should consider if they want to donate to the C3 in support of the organization goals which included the Liberator subscription.”

He said that some abolitionist liked the idea while others opposed it adamantly.

“Some are adamantly opposed to have a C3 status organization as they saw it as a compromise with the government possibly restricting abolitionists. With that the plan continued, “ he explained.

In July-August 2013 Don said that he, Russell and Toby talked about how to promote The Liberator subscription idea and some abolitionists sign up to subscribe to The Liberator. But that by September their efforts seemed slow and eventually stalled. He said that by this point there were about 50-70 subscribers who are giving on average about $30 per month.

The support to produce The Liberator is not sufficient to do so. And it seems that the efforts to build that support is interrupting other work that needs to be done,” Cooper said.

According to Cooper, by November 2013 AHA members again discuss whether they should continue their pursuit of the organization tool as the IRS continues to stall in granting the C3 status, and they feel they are falling into that dark hole of government stalling.

Then, by December 2013, as best as Cooper can recall, he says that Russell Hunter announced that he is convinced that the organization model is detrimental to the abolitionist movement and that Toby felt the same way.

This might explain this post around the same time- condemning pro-lifers who have a 501C3:

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Here is Cooper’s recollection:

    “Russell announces to the other leaders that if we maintain “Abolish Human Abortion” as an organization, that he could not with a clear conscience remain part of the organization. He would remain an abolitionist but not a part of the organization. The other leaders agree that they do not see pursuing the furtherance of the organization as a good thing.”

Cooper told me that he was reluctant to accept this conclusion but eventually realized that this is what must be done for the betterment of the movement.

This may explain a document I located online where Abolish Human Abortion, in 2014, appears to have changed to Abolitionists Northwest with $101,159 in “total revenue” by year end 2013.

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Don Cooper signed the document as Abolish Human Abortion’s “executive director”.

Cooper explained that, at the time, they did have staff which received salaries.

At the end of 2013 Russell sent this end of the year message denouncing how typical 501C3 organizations try to raise money at this time of the year and he says that AHA is not a 501C3:

Russell speaking for AHA which is not an organization according to them, makes this year-end fundraising appeal asking AHA supporters not to write a check to AHA, but to send support to local abolitionist groups.

    “But, we would like to make a year end fundraising appeal, but not for ourselves,” Hunter states.

    “We are not asking you to write an end-of-the-year check to AHA. But, we would like to take the time to ask you to look around within the Abolitionist movement, take stock of the people that you’ve been getting to know, from Facebook or e-mail or YouTube, and watching as they do the work of abolitionism, and, ask yourself if someone you know has a need…who may have needs and God may have blessed you with the ability to help them this Holiday season,” Hunter states.

HOW WAS THE MONEY SPENT?

During the year 2013 Russell and Toby received a small amount of financial support through the abolitionists who had voluntarily signed up as monthly subscribers to the Liberator,” Cooper said.

Cooper was very forthright with me in explaining how the funds he collected in the documents listed above were spent. Although, he does not break down every penny, he seemed willing to release salary information paid to AHA staff during that time.

The list below explains how the salaries break down and Cooper said he has verified this with his accountant:

    Russell Hunter
    2013-Gross Pay=$13,652.10
    2013-Employer Taxes=$1,359.43
    2013-Total Cost=$15,011.53
    Note “Employer Taxes” is what the organization is required to pay to the government. The Gross Pay is before the employee taxes of course

    Toby Harmon
    2013-Gross Pay=$5,469
    2013-Employer Taxes=$560.57
    2013-Total Cost=$6,029.57

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    Cooper wrote this explanation to me regarding his personal salary, “My gross pay for 2013 is on the 990 and it was $40K.”

Cooper explains the money they collected further:

    “The year-end total of donations for 2013 is just over $101K. This is the combined donation of the new abolitionist donors and the supporters that Don had when World Life had begun. All of this support was used to help support full-time and part time staff people: Don Cooper, Russell Hunter, Toby Harmon, Sarah Cleveland, and an accountant. Other expenses were for the Jumbotron in San Francisco which World Life/AHA funded all other expenses except the Jumbotron rental. There was also three different conferences in 2013 (two in Norman and one in Portland, OR). Website and Internet expenses also part of that cost. There were also some donations to other non-profits who helped directly or indirectly put on the Jumbotron project (Created Equal, Abort73, Life Legal Defense Foundation).”

AHA 990 2013

Cooper said that by January 2014 – February 2014 when the consensus was made to abandon the organization model, he decided that he did not want to abandon the C3 he started as “World Life”, and he began the process to change the name again.

Upon the counsel of the attorney hired to deal with IRS delay, it is decided that the name change should not be submitted until after the C3 status is granted,” Cooper said.

According to Cooper he also discussed, “with Russell and Toby about how to handle cancelling the merchant account handling the abolitionist donations. It is decided that Toby and Russell will handle letting the abolitionist supporters know what is going on then we will cancel merchant account. It is decided to do this all in an orderly and linear manner to not create problems with the merchant account and cause problems with IRS, bank or state of Washington where organization is registered.”

    Cooper then lays out this timeline regarding the name Abolish Human Abortion:

    April 2014 – Merchant account is cancelled.

    May 2014 – Name change paperwork is submitted to state of Washington. “Abolitionists Northwest” is the new name of the organization Don is keeping. The name “World Life” remains as the primary DBA for the organization. This group continues to help fund Don Cooper as a full –time abolitionist but also fund projects and materials such as signs and literature for public outreaches. Don’s work as an abolitionist continues both locally in the Portland area and nationally helping other abolitionists and abolitionist societies to do the work of abolition. Don’s annual income through World Life for 2014 was just over $20K. World Life’s total annual gifts for 2014 were just over $60K.

    June 2014 – State of Washington recognizes the name change to “Abolitionists Northwest”. After this, the name change to the IRS was submitted.

    June/July 2014 – Name change from IRS official.

At this time, Cooper said that “Abolitionists Northwest”/”World Life” continues to operate today with Don Cooper as President. Todd Bullis is a member of the board of directors and the organization is unashamed to call itself an abolitionist organization.

Cooper told me that, although he does not oppose fundraising he does not make it a priority.

The only fundraising activity that Todd and I did was to travel to Orlando together and speak to some friends there who had in the past made major gifts to pro-life work. As you know, Todd has had his business a long time and that is his source of income along what his wife earns. Todd does support Toby and Russ the best he can but I am not sure how much that is,” he explained.

“The closest thing to fundraising that Russ and I did is described above. We attempted to make a few videos to explain the need and how people could help. We posted a donation page on the World Life website. I believe it was on the AHA site and FB page too. A link to the monthly donation page.”

You have seen with this blog why Russell and others within AHA make the claim they are not an organization, at least under the name, “Abolish Human Abortion.”

The name INTERNATIONAL COALITION OF ABOLITIONIST SOCIETIES, INC., however is listed as a Domestic Not For Profit Corporation by the Oklahoma Secretary of State, as Jill’s blog pointed out.

International Coalition of Abolitionist Societies Corp

ICAS has also trademarked the logo for AHA:

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As for how T. Russell Hunter raises his support, I have no clue despite this statement he posted to Jill’s Facebook page, “I would totally let you look at all my finances Alexandra. How do I do that? Perhaps Carole is already on the job. Maybe she can track my financials down and write a blog about them in hopes of keeping people from reading Abolishhumanabortion.com or getting involved with the work of abolition in their local area.”

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( NOTE: Prior to publishing this blog I sent a private message to Russell on Facebook asking if he wanted to explain how he raised support – since he was grilled about that online. He never replied. Then, hours after publishing, I came across Hunter’s response – posted on Facebook here, where, Russell, posting as Thomas Hunter, wrote:

    “As for how my wife and I managed to pay our mortgage, feed ourselves and our kids, we adopt what is known as the “George Muller Plan” and rely on the Spirit of God acting through His people to support us as missionaries living in a culture of death. I am also able to withdraw funds from my investments in the AHAgear store but cannot take a full salary for the design work or writing or advertising etc work done on behalf of the gear store. If I did that, or Toby or Matt did that, AHAgear would not be able to afford to print 24 page pamphlets and sell them for a quarter a piece and see them distributed to hundreds of thousands of people all over the world every year.”

In closing, Cooper posted this on Jill’s Facebook page, “We [AHA] are not saying that giving the money that God has given you to steward is a bad thing. We are not saying that receiving charitable gifts is a bad thing in and of itself. But it is the abuses of that which are bad. If someone asking for the money is being a bad steward of it or if someone giving the money is doing so and believing that is all they need to do when God would have them do so much more, then that is bad. And truth be told, I think many of us who have worked in the PLM and in particular in fundraising activities, like I know I have, know that this goes on.”

It was my impression that Don and Toby wanted to review this blog post before it published, but upon further investigation I see that they did not make a formal request to that end. So, in full disclosure, I want to go on record that I have not allowed them to proof this post ahead of time. I have, however, dealt very fairly with them regarding this issue by allowing them their say on this blog. They are free to post comments below to make corrections.

I believe that I am first a Christian and as such I should go the extra mile for my brothers and sisters. I have been extremely saddened and sometimes disgusted by the inaccuracies I have read posted by people claiming to be Abolish Human Abortion – abolitionists- with regard to history within the pro-life movement that I have personally witnessed.

It is my personal view, that while AHA members demand that we check our facts with them, they are not doing the same thing in many cases.

I want to thank Don Cooper for being cordial enough to respond to this request for clarification.

The issue of fundraising was originally brought up by AHA people and I would expect that it will continue to be.

I, for one, do not have any issues one way or the other whether it is AHA or pro-life groups. People are free to investigate the groups they contribute to and to give as they feel led by the Lord to do so. To me, it is not the business of T. Russell Hunter or AHA supporters to question everyone’s motives.

And, that, for what it is worth, is my opinion.

The blog is entitled, Is Abolish Human Abortion an organization?

Saynsumthn is not taking a position against what others have documented, given the documentation was accurate. This post is intended to show brotherly charity that we should show one to another by allowing AHA to clarify their position but does not render them out of the range of criticism on this topic from my point of view.

As they say on Fox News, we report – you decide.

Feel free to weigh in by leaving your comments below.

Man threatens to shoot abortion protesters – becomes physical as wife exits clinic

Posted in AHA, pro-choice violence with tags , , , , , , , , , , , on May 6, 2015 by saynsumthn

A man who drove his wife to A Woman’s Choice abortion clinic in Raleigh, North Carolina has attacked a group, which refers to themselves as abolitionists against abortion, after he perceived they were accusing his wife of having an abortion.

Abolitionists claim they hold to the tenants outlined by Abolish Human Abortion (AHA), and do not want to be linked in any way to the pro-life movement because they favor incremental strategies to end abortion.

In the first video of the man, who drove his wife to the abortion clinic, he initially speaks with the abolitionists calmly, explaining that he knows what the clinic does, but that his wife was not there for an abortion.

I’m here for the service of what my wife needs for her body…I want you to come to my neighborhood with this stuff here,” he says.

He accuses the group of judging everyone that is going to that clinic.

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I’m a minister just like you,” he tells the group as he demands a scripture that would justify their position.

The protesters explain that he is patronizing an abortion clinic.

They then pull up scriptures on their phone when he responds, “I will punch you in your damn face if you’re calling me ignorant.”

It goes downhill from there as the man becomes more and more agitated.

According to a second video uploaded about the incident the self proclaimed “minister” entering the abortion clinic calls the protesters “mother fuc*****”” and goes into a rant about there not being one black person out there among the protesters.

May 2015 abortion violence

That’s the reason while all this sh** going around in the country man,” he lectured the abolitionists.

He then walks away.

The anti-abortion group did not back down and told the man that they were at the abortion clinic to “stand up for your African American baby you are here to murder today.”

The abortion bound man replied, “Race got nothing to do with it man.”

The man then moves quickly back towards the protesters as they explain that they do not want black babies to die.

Black man abortion clinic

Man, fu** the Black babies,” he says as he makes a fist and moves into a demonstrator, who reminds the man that he was the one who first brought up race.

Members of the abolitionist group kept on questioning the angry man – even as he walked away a second time, “What kind of church do you minister at sir,” they asked.

The expletives and anger just spewed out of the man’s mouth.

You should be ashamed of yourself sir,” one of the protesters says in the video.

Then, demonstrators continue to question the man about his church, his pastor, and what God would think of him.

The man turns for a third time, “When Jesus come back – He going to talk to me,” he said.

The demonstrators then began to quote scripture to the man as he started his way back towards them again.

Prochoice man knock out

He gets his camera out of his car, points it at the abolitionists and says he wants to “get this knock out on my phone.”

Make sure you get it mother f-er cause I’m going to hit your ass too,” he says to a protester.

He then goes on another rant about not seeing any Black people in the anti-abortion group.

Just wait about two more minutes,” he said as he walks away again, and then heads back.

prochoice threatens to shoot ant abortion

If I go get my gun out this mother f-er, I’m gonna shoot every one of you all.” he threatens.

He then approaches the protesters again asking if he looks like he needs an abortion and they explain that the place he is patronizing is an abortion clinic.

Wife abortion

“Does it look like my wife needs an abortion?”

Man gets aggressive

He then becomes extremely aggressive and what comes to my mind is why the abortion clinic has not called the police yet?

Ok…by this time I am yelling at the video – stop answering the man back. If he walks away- let him go. But…no….

This is an abortion clinic sir,” they tell the man as he walks away.

Here we go again – the man turns back toward the protesters.


“Turn your other cheek
,” he says in an even more agitated tone.

More aggressive turn your other cheeck

He then calls the protesters names….

Calls them names

Yo, this how you get killed so when you ass be eight feet under just get another one out here (referring to the protesters),” he says.

WOrls like it is

“Cause that’s the reason why the world is like it is right now it’s because of people like you,” and he ….walks away.

Then one of the demonstrators calls out to him again.

“You’ll need to get it together bro, that you sit’n up here judging something that you don’t even know what my wife went in there for.”

He seems to fly off the handle every time they insinuate that his wife is there for an abortion.

As a woman comes up behind him – he seems to get outraged at the group filming the altercation.

He then tries to destroy one of the cameras…and it gets very ugly from here….

Man gets violent

That was the wrong thing to do,” you hear a protester say calmly.

Man grabs camera

Man Grans camera 2

And the attack takes place as the angry man appears to lunge at and attack one of the abolitionists.

Man tackles

You can hear a woman yell, “Get off of him – get off of my husband.”

So apparently, the women who exited the abortion clinic was the angry man’s wife and she rushes to her husband’s defense.

Abolitionist tackles angry prochoice man

The protesters keep saying, “Calm down.”

The videos uploaded by Abolish Human Abortion (AHA) Raleigh reads, “Conversation with a professing “minister” outside the abortion mill in Raleigh. This “minister” threatens violence and harm upon the Christians who are there to bring forth the gospel of Jesus Christ to all who are seeking to do harm and violence upon their unborn children, or support the murder of God’s image-bearers. He then assaults John, at which time he was restrained and told to calm down, as his wife kicks me in the face 6 times, rips off my shirt, undershirt, and GoPro.”

A third video picked up another angle.

At the point the physical altercation begins and the man’s wife walks out – you can hear him – yelling something like, “Get it on camera.”

Get off that camera

This video angle appears to show the man’s wife tearing the shirt off the abolitionist who is on the ground trying to control the husband who attacked him as the man’s wife kicks the abolitionist protester in the head several times.

Wife kicks abolitionist

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The couple then says they didn’t do anything and are calling the police.

Your momma should have aborted your ass,” the wife yells.

The pair then walks to their car and leaves.

The police arrived and the abolitionists say that a warrant has been issued for the couple’s arrest.

Church rep calls member of Abolish Human Abortion a ‘religious anarchist’ escorts him off property

Posted in AHA with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on November 11, 2014 by saynsumthn

Brindley AHAWearing a “God Hates our Worship” shirt, a member of Abolish Human Abortion was escorted out of a Memphis church a week after the group, which opposes abortion, passed out their pamphlets at the church during their national conference.

AHA abolitionist and director of the Abolitionist Society of Memphis-Mid South, John Brindley, claims that when he attended Bellevue a week after AHA held their national “Against the World For the World” Conference in Memphis, all he planned to do was hear speaker David Platt preach, “I respect that guy and was interested in what he had to say. I would not have planned on going to the service if he would not have been there,” he wrote on YouTube.

Platt praised Bellevue Baptist for their support of the pro-life Amendment 1 in Tennessee. Abolish Human Abortion, although they oppose abortion, also opposed the Amendment, which may have motivated their decision to target the church.

A local news article described Brindley’s views, “According to him,” writes The Daily Helmsman, “people have been lied to about “the pro life [movement].” Brindley believes that while the passing of Amendment 1 would most likely lessen the amount of abortions, it wouldn’t do away with them entirely. According to Brindley, abortion should not be regulated, but done away with altogether. Even in the case of rape, incest or a threat to a woman’s health, abortion should never be an option.”

Andy WIllis kicks out AHA

In a video Brindley uploaded to YouTube it is not clear what preceded the request that he leave, however you can hear a member of Bellevue tell the Abolitionist, “You’re not welcome, you’ve got to leave campus.”

When asked why he was being told to leave, the Bellevue representative who identified himself as Andy Willis said, “I don’t have to give you a reason.”

Willis is listed as the Director of Security Services at Bellevue Baptist Church on his Twitter page.

Leave Campus AHA

When the Bellevue leadership spotted me with my friends who met me there, they asked me to go to the lobby,” Brindley wrote on YouTube.

Thankfully I put my GoPro in my pocket. Abolitionists use GoPros and don’t apologize for it. It’s just a wise thing to do. The video starts as I was in the process of being escorted out of the sanctuary. I was unsure of what he wanted to speak to me about. I was disappointed that I was unable to hear David Platt today but more disappointed that leaders of this church would not only escort a fellow brother out of the church but would threaten arrest under criminal trespass if ever returned. He accused me of being a religious anarchist,” he said.

Arrest Brindley AHA Bellevue

As Brindley walked to his car, members of the church told him, “Also notifying you, at this point you are no longer allowed on any Bellevue Baptist property. And if you come onto this property again, sir, we will arrest you for criminal trespass.”

Brindley replied, “Yeah, that’s a nice Christian stance you’ve got there.”

The church representative then refers to Brindley as a “religious anarchist.”

John Brindley

Brindley notified his Facebook followers just after the incident, “I just got escorted off Bellevue’s campus with the instructions that if I ever step foot there again, I’ll be arrested and charged with criminal trespass. That was right before he told me that I was a religious anarchist,” he wrote.

A friend, Elaine AbOso replied with an assessment as to why the church reacted the way they did, “Leadership is still agitated, from last Sun. We did accomplish gentle agitation. Woke-up hopefully a few there, that is if they are not brainwashed, by the leadership. Sorry John, I personally am glad you went back, just stay safe…”

SHawn Viland AHA Bellevue

According to Shawn Viland on November 2nd, during the AHA event in Memphis, he said the group “attended a church service at Bellevue Baptist Church and afterward talked to people about abolishing abortion and handed out pamphlets. Security told some of us to stop and soon the police arrived to escort us out…Yes! Security informed us that only literature produced by their church is permitted to be handed out. So we tried just talking and that apparently wasn’t permitted either.”

John Brindley described the AHA agitation during their national event at Bellevue this way on Facebook, “Let me put this out here. Me and over 100 abolitionists attended Bellevue Baptist on Sunday, Nov. 2nd. Two weeks prior I stopped by as a common courtesy to let them know that a large group from around the country would be in attendance in the Lord’s house. The woman who was secretary to the Missions Director (everyone in leadership was either in a meeting or out) told me that it was great. She even said that they often have groups visit and that it would be a good chance that we would publicly be recognized. I told her that it was not necessary, but I do want to leave my name and # with a brief outline of what we are doing in Memphis this week with an open invitation to join us. I never received a call.”

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Abolish Human Abortion then posted this to their group’s Facebook page, “About a hundred Abolitionists attended this mega-church worship performance and religious lecture. We bowed our heads and prayed during the singing and sat quietly and attentively during the sermon. After everything was concluded we talked to people and gave a “Does God Hate Our Worship” pamphlet to anyone who wanted one. The institution called the cops and had us kicked out of their building.”

Rhology, an outspoken AHA member had this to say, “Thankfully, abolitionists’ attendance of Bellevue Baptist Church on Sunday caused something of a stir, which is one of the things we were hoping for. That the hearts of Pharisees revealed themselves afterward is a bonus.

Below is video I located of AHA at Bellevue Baptist where you can hear the church’s security team politely ask the AHA members not to hand out any pamphlets. According to the church, they do not allow pamphlets that are not approved by the church to be passed out. According to the members of AHA, on the video, this request by the church amounted to persecution.