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Oh the lies: Hillary Clinton saying she will work with pastor to reduce abortion and Elvis is alive !

Posted in Abortion Vintage, Clinton, Hillary clinton, Jim Wallis, Partial Birth Abortion, RU-486 with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on March 26, 2015 by saynsumthn

In 2007, Dr. Joel C. Hunter, senior pastor of Northland Church (www.northlandchurch.net), served as a panelist during a live CNN discussion with leading Democratic presidential contenders Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, and Barack Obama at the Sojourners Presidential Forum on Faith, Values, and Poverty.

Rev. Hunter asked then Senator Clinton, ‘Could you see yourself, with millions of voters in a pro-life camp, creating a common ground, with the goal ultimately in mind of reducing the decisions for abortion to zero?’

Hillary Clinton Faith Politcs Abortion

At the time Hillary was touting her husband Bill Clinton’s old rhetoric that “abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.”

However, Bill Clinton was the most radically pro-abortion president at the time he served his two terms in office.

Bill CLinton lifts several bans on abortion 1993

Listen to his speech here.

In fact one of his first acts as President was to lift several bans on abortion through executive order on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion on demand in the United States.

Bill CLinton lifts abortion restrictions Executive Orders Jan 22 1993

Bill CLinton Executive Orders abortion

Bill Clinton vetoed pro-life measures like a ban on the horrific partial birth abortion procedure which allows an abortionist to partially deliver the unborn child before stabbing the baby in the neck and sucking out their brains:

Clinton Vetoes Partial Birth Abortion BIll 1996

Bill Clinton approved the abortion drug: RU486:

Bill Clinton RU486 abortion

And did even more to open the flood gates of abortion:

Abortion Clinic Access Bill Clinton 1994

Abortion Gag rule pulled Clinton 1993

Clinto eases laws abortion

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Hillary CLinton Abortion

Lest you think Bill’s abortion promotion was not approved by Hillary, think again. Carl Bernstein writes in A Woman in Charge, “On the 4th day of the Clinton presidency, Jan. 23, the 20th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, Bill Clinton signed a series of executive orders undoing the draconian policies of the Reagan-Bush era relating to abortion, contraception, and family planning.

Hillary had pushed unequivocally for the orders, but Bill’s pollster argued that she was dead wrong on the timing of such a hot-button issue; by acting on abortion policy as one of the administration’s first pieces of business, the president and, worse, Hillary, would be perceived as governing from the left. But Hillary regarded the prohibitions in question as a powerful symbol of Reagan-era policies, and an opportunity to declare boldly that the Clinton era had begun.

“The milestone anniversary of Roe v. Wade, in Hillary’s view, was the perfect opportunity to move the new presidency on course unambiguously in terms of women’s rights, signal the religious right that its decade of dominance in regard to personal questions was over.”
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In Fact, when Hillary Clinton was pushing for nationalized healthcare back when Bill was president, she proposed funding abortions in her healthcare plan:

Hillary Clinton Abortion Health Care

Paul Kengor, wrote about it in his 2007 book: God and Hillary Clinton,”Mrs. Clinton, during her efforts to revolutionize the health care industry, said 1993 that under her plan, abortion services “would be widely available.” This prompted anxieties over the prospect of taxpayer-funded abortions, sparking the Coates Amendment, which sought to strip abortion funding from the plan.

“The first lady allowed for a “conscience exemption” in which doctors and hospitals would not be forced to perform abortions. Pro-lifers were relieved; still, they could not fathom that their tax dollars might be used to find what they saw as the deliberate destruction of innocent human life.

“Mrs. Clinton’s words also ignited fears among moderate and conservative Christians over the availability of the abortion pill, RU-486, under her health care plan. One of her husband’s first acts in office was to push the pill to market through an expedited FDA approval process that was criticized by pro-lifers as allegedly too quick for the safety of the women who would take the pill.”

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hillary clinton Planned Parenthood

In the 2007 event shown in the video below, Hillary Clinton was being politically savvy – plain and simple- since she supported all her husband’s actions and as Senator dug in her support for abortion as well.

Hilary Clinton continues to push a radical pro-abortion agenda of abortion on demand for any reason at all nine months of pregnancy.

It’s [abortion] a moral issue and should not be in any way diminished as a moral issue no matter which side you are on,” Clinton said.

Really?

Do not be deceived by the Clinton spin machine !!

Here is the transcript:

Dr. Joel C. Hunter: Hi, Senator Clinton.

Abortion continues to be one of the most hurtful and divisive facts of our nation. I come from the part of the faith community that is very strongly pro-life. I know you’re pro-choice, but you have indicated that you would like to reduce the number of abortions.

Could you see yourself, with millions of voters in a pro-life camp, creating a common ground, with the goal ultimately in mind of reducing the decisions for abortion to zero?

CLINTON: Yes. Yes.

And that is what I have tried to both talk about and reach out about over the last many years, going back, really, at least 15 years, in talking about abortion being safe, legal, and rare. And, by rare, I mean rare.

And it’s been a challenge, because the pro-life and the pro- choice communities have not really been willing to find much common ground. And I think that is a great failing on all of our parts, because, for me…

(APPLAUSE)

CLINTON: … there are many opportunities to assist young people to make responsible decisions.

There is a tremendous educational and public outreach that could be done through churches, through schools, through so much else. But I think it has to be done with an understanding of reaching people where they are today.

We have so many young people who are tremendously influenced by the media culture and by the celebrity culture, and who have a very difficult time trying to sort out the right decisions to make.

And I personally believe that the adult society has failed those people. I mean, I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools, our government. And I certainly think the, you know, free market has failed. We have all failed.

We have left too many children to sort of fend for themselves morally. And, so, I think there is a great opportunity. But it would require sort of a — a leaving at the sides the suspicion and the baggage that comes with people who have very strong, heartfelt feelings.

You know, when I first started thinking about this very difficult issue — because it is. It’s a moral issue. And it should not be in any way diminished as a moral issue, no matter which side you’re on, because I have seen cases where I honestly believed that the — the moral choice was very complicated and not so straightforward as to what a young woman, her family, her physician, her pastor should do.

And what concerns me is that there’s been a — a real reluctance for anyone to make a move toward the other side, for fear of being labeled as turning one’s back on the moral dimensions of the issue from either direction.

So, I would invite you, and I would be willing to work with you, to see whether there couldn’t be some common ground that one could find.

Hillary CLinton Cnngrats NARAL 2

Think about this, Hillary Clinton once told the abortion lobby group NARAL, that abortion was a fundamental American value, “ I want to congratulate NARAL for calling choice what it is, a fundamental American value, and Freedom.” ~ Hillary Clinton on the 26th anniversary of Roe. V. Wade which legalized abortion on demand.

Do you see any common ground here?

For some background on Hillary’s ties to Planned Parenthood an article in Politico is a great read!

Others are:

Hillary defends chop shop Planned Parenthood

Hillary Clinton praises racist Margaret Sanger founder of Planned Parenthood

Hillary Clinton the CHAMPION of Abortion and eugenics founded Planned Parenthood

Hillary Clinton “I will lift ban on embryonic stem cell research” supports Biotech companies and GMO’s

Hillary Clinton silent on harvesting parts from aborted babies outspoken on doing it to Elephants

Hillary Rodham Clinton’s defense of gruesome late term abortion procedure: Partial Birth Abortion

Hillary Clinton claims religious beliefs have to change on abortion NOT!

Jim Wallis of Sojourners , “I read Karl Marx”

Posted in Jim Wallis with tags , , , , , on August 10, 2011 by saynsumthn


Jim Wallis: Sojourners

In 1971, Jim Wallis founded Sojourners and in this interview he admits to Outreach Magazine:

So in college, I joined the Civil Rights movement as a campus organizer but eventually found that the student movements I was involved in didn’t have an adequate foundation. I read Karl Marx, Che Guevara and Ho Chi Minh, but they didn’t satisfy; a spiritual foundation was missing. I decided to take one last look at the New Testament, starting with Matthew. I read the Sermon on the Mount and I was just amazed. This is a whole new order called the kingdom of God, I thought. He wants to turn everything upside down—economic, social, spiritual, political.

You shall know them by their fruits:

Where we differ. Wallis believes that it is government, not the church, who will ultimately help the poor.

On Abortion Wallis and Sojourners call for “Common ground” something I reject- because we cannot have common ground with those who murder children. This is a flawed approach that takes Planned Parenthood’s current strategy of passing out contraception to our kids, and seeks to bring Christians on board. Do we think that in Germany, during the Nazi Holocaust we should have sat down with Hitler to talk about “reducing the amount of Jews thrown in the ovens?” Reducing abortions is important, as long as each time we reaffirm the sanctity of their very human life, something the abortion industry will never do.

Jim Wallis on abortion
“I don’t think that abortion is the moral equivalent issue to slavery that Wilberforce dealt with. I think that poverty is the new slavery. Poverty and global inequality are the fundamental moral issues of our time. That’s my judgment”

On 2/5/2009, Sojourners sent out an e-mail and Wallis wrote this about Obama’s New Faith-Based Council , “The launch of the President’s Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships, on which I will serve, recommits our nation to the necessary and positive vision of partnership between the public sector and the faith community. It is significant that both the elimination of poverty and the reduction of abortion are central goals within the administration and this new initiative. This indicates a shift toward a deeper and more constructive engagement with the faith community and civil society around substantive policy issues.“…..

I am sorry Mr. Wallis- did I miss something? Where has the most pro-abortion President reduced abortions with your help? Where has he defunded the Eugenics based tax funded to the tune of $350 million dollars a year, Planned Parenthood the largest abortion mill- the US????

Jim Wallis on Homosexuality:
“I believe in equal protection under the law in a democratic, pluralistic society…Some would debate whether civil unions are necessary for that, or whether other legal protections are adequate. And that’s a fair discussion. I don’t think the sacrament of marriage should be changed. Some people say that Jesus didn’t talk about homosexuality, and that’s technically true. But marriage is all through the Bible, and it’s not gender-neutral.
I have never done a blessing for a same-sex couple. I’ve never been asked to do one. I’m not sure that I would. I want churches that disagree on this to have a biblical, theological conversation and to live with their differences and not spend 90 percent of their denominational time arguing about this issue when 30,000 children are dying every single day because of poverty and disease.”

“The Episcopal Church showed some typical American arrogance around the Robinson ordination when they weren’t willing to continue to be in conversation with their brothers and sisters in the Anglican Communion globally. But the church shouldn’t divide over this. They should stay together, live with their differences, keep talking, and respect each other’s opinions. There are churches that will bless gay unions, and that’s just a fact. They’re there. And there are churches that won’t. And those that won’t shouldn’t be pressured to do so by their liberal denominational leaders.”

WATCH: T.D’ Jakes, Sam Rodriguez, Joel Hunter, Jim Wallis, Vashti Mckenzie, Kirbyjon Caldwell, Dr. William Shaw and Others Sign Open Letter’ Condemning the Misrepresentation of President Obama’s Faith

Posted in Christian, Jim Wallis, Obama, Religion with tags , , , , , , , , , , on August 27, 2010 by saynsumthn

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Several prominent Christian leaders are defending President Barack Obama in the wake of questions about his faith.

A recent poll revealed nearly one in five Americans believe Obama is Muslim, even though he’s repeatedly said he’s Christian.

In response, more than 70 pastors and other Christian leaders signed a letter saying the personal faith of public leaders should not be up for public debate.

Some of the names on the list include Bishop T.D. Jakes, Dr. Joel Hunter, and Rev. Samuel Rodriguez.

“President Obama has been unwavering in confessing Christ as Lord and has spoken often about the importance of his Christian faith,” the leaders wrote. “Many of the signees on this letter have prayed and worshipped with this president.”

“We believe that questioning, and especially misrepresenting, the faith of a confessing believer goes too far,” they continued.

The leaders urged the media, public officials, and other faith leaders “to offer no further support or airtime” to those who question Obama’s faith.

The full text of the letter and a list of signatories is below.

As Christian leaders— whose primary responsibility is sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ with our congregations, our communities, and our world— we are deeply troubled by the recent questioning of President Obama’s faith. We understand that these are contentious times, but the personal faith of our leaders should not be up for public debate.

President Obama has been unwavering in confessing Christ as Lord and has spoken often about the importance of his Christian faith. Many of the signees on this letter have prayed and worshipped with this President. We believe that questioning, and especially misrepresenting, the faith of a confessing believer goes too far.

This is not a political issue. The signers of this letter come from different political and ideological backgrounds, but we are unified in our belief in Jesus Christ. As Christian pastors and leaders, we believe that fellow Christians need to be an encouragement to those who call Christ their savior, not question the veracity of their faith.

Therefore, we urge public officials, faith leaders, and the media to offer no further support or airtime to those who misrepresent and call into question the President’s Christian faith. And we join with the President in praying that God will continue to bless the United States of America.

Signed, (Full list here)