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Ambulance removes patient from abortion clinic of LeRoy Carhart

Posted in 911 calls, Abortion clinic, Abortionist, Carhart with tags , , , , on December 19, 2015 by saynsumthn

Abortionist LeRoy Carhart escorts an abortion patient suffering a medical emergency to an awaiting ambulance. This is the fifth woman he has hospitalized since locating his late-term abortion business in Maryland 5 years ago. One of those patients died. Her name was Jennifer Morbelli – read about her tragic death here.

More at Operation Rescue.

911 Dispatch tied up by abortion doc griping about protesters

Posted in Abortionist with tags , , , , , , , , on December 12, 2015 by saynsumthn

In another example of the lack of respect for life a notorious abortion doctor ties up 911 phone lines for over five minutes so he can make a petty call to report protesters at his abortion clinic. Abortionist Jacob Kalo, who owns several abortion clinics in Michigan, is not new to Live Action News readers. Kalo’s lack of concern for the health and safety of others was documented on this site after health officials suspended one of his four abortion facilitates last year.

Now, 911 audio provided by pro-life activist Lynn Mills, reveals that on October 7, 2015 the abortion doctor tied up emergency phone lines for over five minutes to complain about “picketers” forcing the 911 operator to place him on hold at least five times to take real emergency calls.

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“My name is doctor Kalo, I’m, the owner of 57, sorry, 6765 Orchard Lake Road. I have a clinic over there. And, there is some picketers over there,” he tells the 911 operator.

Kalo then states that this is the third time he has called that week.

As the 911 dispatcher restates the address, she is interrupted by real emergency call, “One second please,” she says.

“What is the name of the business there?” the 911 operator asks Kalo.

It’s Women’s Center,” the abortionist replies.

Kalo, who has been the subject of pickets for years, tells the emergency dispatcher, “I don’t know if they are allowed to picket or not…but according to the bylaws and the state laws if they want to picket…”

He is then abruptly interrupted so the 911 operator can take ANOTHER emergency call.

When she returns several minutes later, she tells Kalo that the pro-lifers ARE allowed to picket.

But, this is not good enough.

Kalo continues to take valuable time away from 911 by complaining because some of the protesters are sitting in chairs telling the 911 dispatcher, “…its not a picnic place…”

He is interrupted for a THIRD TIME so the 911 operator can put his petty call on hold to take a real emergency call.

“I have another emergency call coming in – one minute,” 911 tells Kalo.

When the dispatcher returns, Kalo tells her the pro-lifers are “not walking” adding “this is not picketing.”

Even after the 911 operator tells the abortionist that she will have an officer go by to “take a look” Kalo persists in taking up valuable time saying, “Let me just tell you something. I don’t want to keep repeating…” he says before being interrupted a FOURTH TIME so the emergency dispatcher can take a real emergency call.

Mr. Kalo we’ll send an officer on over there, okay?” 911 asks as they return to the phone.

And…you guessed it, Kalo (the nagging abortionist) continues to chastise the operator, “Yeah, but I don’t want to do that every day,” he says.

911 patiently tells Kalo, “Sir, the most I can do is send an officer over there, okay?

Kalo replies, “Let me just say one more sentence. Somebody has to talk to the guys organizing all of that and let them explain the law.”

911 again tells the abortion doctor they will send an officer over to his clinic.

Kalo still won’t quit, and continues to talk.

911 tell him again that they are extremely busy and says he can hang up or be put on hold so she can take the FIFTH TIME so she can take another emergency call.

He wanted to be put on hold…and he waits again for the 911 dispatcher to some back to the phone.

The audio ends at that point. But Lynn Mills said that the call continued for several more minutes. According to the police report obtained by Mills, police responded to find two older women sitting in chairs outside Kalo’s abortion clinic.

Kalo Police Report

You can listen to the call here.

Who are the real abortion extremists and why is the media biased ?

Posted in Abortionist arrested, Media Bias, pro-choice violence with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , on December 4, 2015 by saynsumthn

When an abortion activist was arrested for throwing a Molotov cocktail device at pro-lifers outside a Planned Parenthood, the media did not respond by labeling all pro-choice and reproductive rights activists as “extremists” or “domestic terrorists.”

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Earlier this year, Melanie Maria Toney admitted to throwing the Molotov cocktail at pro-life people praying outside an Austin Planned Parenthood. She was not a peeping tom recluse living in a trailer in the boonies. In fact, she was an active supporter of abortion rights even testifying against restrictive abortion laws in Texas.

Her actions were blamed on her alone and were not used as a politically charged media slander of all abortion rights supporters. There have been several acts of violence directed at pro-lifers including the use of guns yet the media conveniently fails to report them.

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However, when one lone gunman was arrested after a tragic shooting at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood in November, which left three people dead and several others injured, the media went crazy labeling pro-life activists as “extremists” claiming their “rhetoric” somehow led to the shooting. This very untrue and irresponsible conduct is obviously motivated, not by truth, but by the abortion bias of many in the main stream media.

To show how bias they are, one need only look at how the media handled only a “few” of the violent or illegal actions of those in the abortion movement.

In February of 2015, an Arizona court rejected an appeal by an abortionist who was convicted of sexually abusing several patients in his Phoenix abortion clinic.

Abortion doctor Brian Finkel photo Life Dynamics Blog

Abortion doctor Brian Finkel photo Life Dynamics Blog

Originally charges with 67 counts of sexual assault, abortionist Brian Finkel was sentenced in 2004 to nearly 35 years in prison and convicted of 22 counts sexual assault of his female abortion patients. Despite the fact that the convicted abortionist once did 20% of the state’s abortions, all abortion providers were never labeled rapists after Finkel’s convictions. (More on this violent case here)

In December of 2013, a California Planned Parenthood employee was arrested on a count of sexual battery, according to the Sacramento Police. Jorge Martin-Santana stood accused of inappropriately touched a patient while working as a medical assistant and the media was relatively silent.

Jorge Martin Santana Sexual Assault

Despite his arrest on these alleged charges, Planned Parenthood suffered no scorn from the MSM.

Kermit Gosnell arrested

Kermit Gosnell arrested

When Philadelphia abortion doctor, Kermit Gosnell was found guilty of first-degree murder for killing three babies born alive and viable during abortion procedures, and was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the death of a woman who died at his clinic during a procedure, the abortion industry referred to him as an anomaly and the media played along. In May of 2013, Gosnell was sentenced to life in prison leaving the abortion industry and all their supporters who turned a blind eye to the actions of Gosnell unscathed.

When police arrested Tony Ray Thornton, he was working as Planned Parenthood’s President and CEO of their Lubbock, Texas branch. In 2012, the 56 year-old Planned Parenthood CEO was arrested and accused of exposing his genitals in Mackenzie Park. Sgt. Jonathan Stewart, Lubbock Police Department spokesman, said he didn’t know whether children were in the area when Thornton was in the park or how many people were present. You can read the police report here.

Planned Parenthood CEO arrested for indecent exposure

Planned Parenthood CEO arrested for indecent exposure

But, no worries, because Planned Parenthood instantly distanced the organization from him and that was that. There was no call from the media to label all Planned Parenthood staffers perverts for the action of one employee.

Abortion doctor Rapin Osathanondh  sentenced for manslaughter  Image: Screen from Satellite News Service.com

Abortion doctor Rapin Osathanondh sentenced for manslaughter
Image: Screen from Satellite News Service.com

In 2010, the doctor who performed an abortion on deceased patient Laura Hope Smith admitted that his actions led to her death while she was under his care. In addition to receiving a 6 month jail sentence for pleading guilty to the criminal charge of involuntary manslaughter, 67 year-old abortion doctor Rapin Osathanondh settled a civil suit and agreed to pay $2 million to Smith’s parents. Smith was 13 weeks pregnant when she went to see Osathanondh for an abortion in his Cape Cod office. She was pronounced dead later that day. Prosecutors charged Osathanondh with manslaughter, alleging that he failed to monitor her while she was under anesthesia, delayed calling emergency services when her heart stopped, and later lied to try to cover up his actions. To date, no other abortion doctor has been labeled an “extremist” for the actions of this abortion doctor. (read more here).

In a 5-4 ruling in 2010, the Mississippi Supreme Court upheld the 20-year sentence of a Laurel abortionist for the 1997 murder of his wife. Malachy Dehenre was found guilty of manslaughter in January of 2008 for the shooting death of his wife Nayasha Dehenre.

Malachy DeHenre arrested for murder

Malachy DeHenre arrested for murder

According to the case, shortly after midnight on January 23, 1997, 911 operators dispatched Jones County deputies and paramedics to the home of Dr. Nyasha DeHenre (Nyasha). Nyasha’s ex-husband, Malachy, was standing outside when law enforcement officials and medical personnel arrived. He directed them into the home, where they found Nyasha lying on the couch with a book lying across her stomach, her feet propped up, and a bullet wound to her head. Nyasha died several days later.

Despite DeHenre’s cold and calculating actions, there was no call to label all abortion doctors extremist wife killers after his arrest and subsequent sentencing and appeal. Instead, Jones County Assistant District Attorney, J. Ronald Parrish called the abortionist, not the abortion movement a, “ despicable nasty person,” adding that he also killed abortion patients.

“He not only killed his wife, that what he was convicted for, but I think people need to know about him. He also killed, two other women during abortions. One in Alabama and one in Jackson, Mississippi, and according to him he preformed 30,000 abortions on unborn children,” he said.

But, wait there’s more…

In 2008, a former employee and abortionist for Planned Parenthood of the Columbia-Willamette in Oregon by the name of Dr. GEORGE ELLIOTT KABACY, M.D., was sentenced to 6 1/2 years in prison for possession of child pornography. Dr. George Elliott Kabacy was actively practicing as an OBGYN in Washington State at the time of his arrest in December 2006. At the sentencing, Assistant U.S. Attorney Vince Lombardi said Kabacy “traded pictures of children being subjected to rape and degradation.”

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Kabacy admitted in his plea agreement that he knowingly possessed more than 8,000 images of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct. Although this pedophile was not practicing at the Planned Parenthood at the time of his arrest, the media did not label the entire organization in a negative way after his despicable illegal activities became public.

On December 11, 2001, the Oklahoman detailed the murder trial of abortionist John Baxter Hamilton. Hamilton performed abortions at the Oklahoma Clinic for Women in Oklahoma City, OK.

John Baxter Hamilton arrested for murdering his wife

John Baxter Hamilton arrested for murdering his wife

Hamilton was found guilty in the Valentine’s Day killing of his wife, Susan Hamilton. Her nude body was found lying in blood in the master bathroom of the Hamilton’s Quail Creek home, her skull fractured and face disfigured. She had been choked with a necktie and beaten to death.

Although the media will tout the murder of abortion doctors, few seem to mention the murder conviction of this abortion doctor. They see this case as unrelated to the abortion movement and will never label them all as extremists or terrorists because of it. (More info on this brutal murder here.)

Activist Killed

    “I just drove and stopped, and I shot. He was still moving so I shot him one more time. I aimed under the ribcage going up toward the heart.”

Those are the words of convicted murderer Harlan Drake. Who did he shoot? Not a Planned Parenthood worker or an abortion doctor. No, Drake believed in abortion. His victim was a pro-life activist by the name of James Pouillon, who was holding a pro-life sign outside a school in Michigan when the pro-choice shooter aimed and fired his weapon, killing him instantly on September 11, 2009.

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A witness testified in court that she saw Drake fire multiple shots at Pouillon who attempted to protect himself with his sign and used it to support himself before the shooter drove closer and fired again, she said. “The shots rang out again and he fell to the side and onto his front,” she said.

There were “bullet holes everywhere” in Pouillon’s body, she testified. “He was shot all the way around his body,” she said.

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Authorities said that the “anti-abortion literature” which Pouillon passed out motivated Drake to shoot the pro-life man. The killer, Harlan Drake told police that the night before the shootings he intended to kill Pouillon if he saw him at the school the next day holding his pro-life sign.

I just drove and stopped, and I shot,” Drake said during an interview recorded by police the day of the shootings. “He was still moving so I shot him one more time. I aimed under the ribcage going up toward the heart.”

I figured if he was there, I’d make sure he wasn’t there (again)…”

The same day Drake fatally wounded James Pouillon in cold blood, he also murdered another man. At the time of his death, pro-life leaders called for authorities to treat Pouillon’s case the same way they treat acts of violence at abortion clinics.

A response by Planned Parenthood East Central Michigan president Lori Lamerand after Pouillon’s murder was published by a local media outlet, “If this is related to his pro-life views, we find that tragic and do not endorse such actions in any way, shape or form,” said Lamerand. Her attempt to denounce the killing was fully accepted by the media and there was no repeated frenzy to label the “rhetoric” of Planned Parenthood against “anti-abortion activists” as having a role in Pouillon’s tragic death.

Despite the murder of this pro-life activist, to date, no other abortion activists have been labeled “extremists” after this attack occurred.

Dangerous Michigan abortion clinic may reopen

Posted in Abortion clinic, Abortion Clinic Closed, Abortion Clinic Inspections, Abortionist with tags , , , , , , , , , on November 13, 2015 by saynsumthn

An abortion clinic in the State of Michigan which lost its license to operate for failing to pass basic health inspections may be given the chance to reopen. Abortionist Jacob Kalo currently operates four abortion clinics in Michigan. On November 21, 2014 the state closed a fifth abortion facility after the state suspended the license of Kalo’s Women’s Center of Southfield for failing to pass several health inspections.

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According to pro-life activist Lynn Mills, who has researched Kalo’s record, the abortionist took over the Southfield abortion facility from troubled abortion provider, Abraham Alberto Hodari. Under Hodari the facility was one of only a handful of abortion clinics in the state that held a license. In just over one year of taking over the clinic, Mills said Kalo’s Southfield facility failed to pass several state inspections. As a result, in 2014, the state suspended the license of the Southfield clinic with the goal of a permanent suspension.

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An October 7, 2014 letter from the state details the violations found at Kalo’s clinic during one of the inspections:

• No hand hygiene was observed being performed by Dr. Kalo. (Not before or after
ultrasound exam, Not before gloving for procedure or after removing gloves at end of procedure)
• No vaginal prep done. (Betadine was available in OR)
• No inspection of the POC (Productions of Conception) was observed by Dr. Kalo or qualified person assisting the physician prior to disposing of the pathologic specimen by the medical assistant.
• Patient’s belongings-purse, shoes, and clothing stored in an open plastic basket in OR during procedure.
• During procedure the RN was observed going into the medication supply cupboard with contaminated gloves. The RN drew medication from a multidose vial into an unlabeled syringe and gave it to Dr. Kalo who administered it, without the RN showing him the vial for verification of medication provided.
• No hand hygiene observed by Medical Assistant after removing gloves after washing dirty instruments used during the procedure.
• At end of procedure the Medical Assistant used a common bucket (kept in the OR) containing tap water to suck fluid through the bloody used suction aspiration tubing from the procedure. (Staff confirmed the bucket contained no disinfectant, and the bucket was being used for multiple patients.)
• Following the procedure Dr. Kalo was observed handling the bloody used suction tip and tubing in the instrument cleaning sink without gloves or proper PPE.

Despite the serious violations, the state has now decided to allow Kalo’s Southfield abortion clinic to reopen. This news comes to Live Action News, in a document provided by Mills.

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According to the September 30, 2015 agreement issued to Kalo from the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, the state is dissolving it’s suspension of the abortion clinic based on a few stipulations. First, the order requires that Kalo pay the state $25,000. According to the Stipulations Agreement, the clinic will remain suspended until Kalo complies all applicable requirements of the Public Health Safety Code. The state is also requiring the Southfield abortion facility to pass at least one unannounced inspection. Then, if the clinic reopens it will be placed on probation for at least one year.

Mills told Saynsumthn that what the state is doing by potentially allowing Kalo’s facility to reopen is putting the women of Michigan at risk. Mills also said that in response to the state suspending the license of Kalo’s clinic she filed a complaint with the state’s medical licensing board detailing what the state found in their inspection. And, Mills later discovered from a FOIA request provided by another source that there are two additional allegations filed against the abortionist. The open records reads in part:

    “There are three open allegations on file regarding Jacob Kalo as follows: File No. 135808 was opened December 16, 2014, File No. 136671 was opened March 2, 2015, and File No. 137803 was opened June 2, 2015. The files currently remain open.”

Kalo failed to maintain basic proper hand washing and hygiene requirements, that alone should set off warning flags and alarm everyone,” Mills points out. Although the document says that the state is requiring that Kalo’s other four abortion clinics be inspected, Mills said that since the law requiring abortion clinic inspections and licensing went into effect in 2013, the state has yet to inspect those facilities. To date, Mills said that the Southfield clinic remains closed.

Pro-lifers want investigation into abortion doc who used kitchen tools in abortions

Posted in Abortion Training, Abortionist, Center for Medical Progress, Planned Parenthood sells aborted baby parts with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , on November 2, 2015 by saynsumthn

Pro-lifers are calling for the investigation of a Planned Parenthood abortion doctor caught talking about fetal research on secretly recorded tape. Lisa Harris, who once wrote that she “does society’s dirty work”, also bragged that she felt liberated after using “ordinary kitchen tools” to perform legal abortions.

Lisa Harris kitchen tool abortion PP

Lisa Harris the Planned Parenthood abortionist, writes in the Atrium, a Report of the Northwestern Medical Humanities and Bio-Ethics Program in 2014:

    “I set down the tray and pour the bowl’s contents into a hand held kitchen strainer. It is an ordinary kitchen strainer that I purchased at the bed and bath store…I run water through the strainer to clear away the blood and empty the strained contents onto another tray. The patient whose abortion I have just done was early in her pregnancy…I move the tissue into a square Pyrex baking dish…I use ordinarily kitchen tools…I do society’s dirty work….I turn women into non-mothers…(I know full well that most women seeking abortions are mothers…)And fetuses die at my hands.”

In leaked undercover video footage from the Center for Medical Progress, received this week by GotNews.com after being put online by a hacker, the Michigan Planned Parenthood abortion doctor was recorded telling a NAF audience that a baby’s head sometimes gets stuck when dismembering them in an abortion and that she is concerned about the regulations that govern research.

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Saynsumthn has previously reported that in a separate recording, Harris told CMP that all “research projects” at the Planned Parenthood affiliate she is with go through their VP of medical services. She also said that, “All research projects pay – pay for the effort but there’s never been like a per specimen fee.” In addition Harris expressed concern that “research regulations” “get in the way.”

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As a result of her statements, 50 pro-life activists gathered in front of the Ann Arbor Planned Parenthood where Harris works to call for Michigan’s Attorney General to investigate the abortionist. Planned Parenthood has of course denied any wrongdoing but pro-life activists are not convinced.

“I think there’s evidence to the allegations we’re making and we believe this is something that needs to be looked into
,” Monica Miller, director of Citizens for a Pro-Life Society who organized the event, told MLive.com.

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In the video it says quite clearly what she’s doing,” Miller added.

Planned Parenthood receives $528 million federal tax dollars annually and pressure is mounting to have them defunded after a steady flow of shocking video has been made public from the Center for Medical Progress and other sources.

I don’t believe Planned Parenthood could be what it is today without the millions of dollars they get from the federal and state government,” Pro-lifer Lynn Mills, who also helped organize the press conference, said. “They need to be cut off.”

As Saynsumthn has previously reported, this abortionist once described doing a late-term abortion while pregnant. Harris also admitted that abortion procedures are violent, that abortion victims really do look like pro-lifers’ photos and has said that re-assembling fetal body parts often elicits “feelings of awe” in abortionists.

Michigan pro-life activist Lynn Mills

Michigan pro-life activist Lynn Mills

Mills, who is the director of Pro-Life Detroit, told Saynsumthn that she would like for every pro-lifer who reads this story to contact the Michigan Attorney General and request that Planned Parenthood and Harris be investigated, “The words that came directly out of Lisa Harris’ mouth alone should prompt an investigation.” Mills said.

Harris herself challenges fetal tissue regulations and how they restrict what she can do. In past interviews with media outlets that I have listened to, Harris has bemoaned all abortion restrictions claiming abortion operators should be able to self-govern and self-rule. Well, is this what you get when you self-rule? Abortionists selling baby parts?”

“I urge concerned citizens everywhere to call 517-373-1101 and tell Attorney General Bill Schuette to launch an investigation,” Mills added.

A representative from state Senator Patrick Colbeck’s office said the senator has forwarded the video to the attorney general and requested that he investigate the matter further. Colbeck has also introduced a bill to defund Planned Parenthood in Michigan by halting any state money flowing to the organization, according to MLive.com.

( Images of press conference credit: Lynn Mills Facebook)

Abortion owner joked about fetus bonfire

Posted in Aborted Babies, Aborted Babies for Electricity, Aborted Baby Body Parts, Aborted Baby Trash, Abortion clinic, Abortion energy, Abortionist, Abortionist arrested, Abortionist dumps fetuses, Abortionist Investigated, Abortionist Sexual, Center for Medical Progress, Disposal of Fetal remains with tags , , , , , , , , , on November 2, 2015 by saynsumthn

A recently leaked tape recorded at a National Abortion Federation event captures one abortion owner joking about the need to burn the fetuses her clinic aborted in a field, something that another doctor actually did.

The comments came from Renee Chelian, owner of the Michigan abortion clinic chain, Northland Family Planning who also told her NAF audience that if it weren’t for the “PR nightmare” she thought it would be a “great idea” to burn the remains of aborted babies for energy. Sadly, using aborted children for energy is not a new idea. In 2014, CBS reported that an electricity generated in Oregon may have included aborted babies. And, a 2014 UK Telegraph report found that the remains of more than 15,000 babies were incinerated as ‘clinical waste’ by hospitals in Britain with some used in ‘waste to energy’ plants.

Earlier in the conversation, the abortion owner joked about wanting to take aborted babies from her clinic into a field and burn them. The trouble is, that idea has previously been carried out by another abortion doctor also making headlines this month.

Renee Chelian

In her speech, Chelian told the NAF audience the following:

“Um…Nobody wants to talk about dead bodies. Um, and nobody but me. I’m just saying. There was a point when Stericycle fired us that I had 5 months worth of fetal tissue in my freezers. We were renting freezers to put them in,” she says about her frustration over where to take her clinic’s aborted preborn babies for disposal.

Chelian continued, “It was all I thought about, was fetal tissue. Like, I was so consumed with fetal tissue, I was ready to drive to upper Michigan and have a bonfire. And I was just trying to figure out, you know, how I wouldn’t get stopped. Or, you know, how far into the woods would I have to go to have this fire that nobody was going to see me…I mean it was the worst, I dreamed about how to dispose of fetal tissue. And the garbage disposal was an option…”

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Ironically, although Chelian joked about dumping fetuses somewhere in the woods and burning them, an Oklahoma abortion doctor once admitted doing that precise thing for the exact same reasons that Chelian outlined in her speech. In 1992, Dr. Nareshkumar Patel was investigated for burning a large amount of aborted children in a field near Shawnee.

From the Oklahoman:

    “Patel has been the center of controversy repeatedly since getting his medical license in Oklahoma in May 1984. In the most notorious incident, he burned 55 aborted fetuses in 1992 in a field east of Shawnee. He was investigated over the incident but never charged.”

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Well…not so fast.

A 1992 Toledo Blade article on Patel read this way, “Dr.Nareshkumar Patel, an obstetrician-gynecologist told authorities he burned the fetuses because he was having trouble finding someone to handle their disposal.” Did you hear that Renee Chelian? Patel has already disposed of aborted children in the sick way you suggested and guess what, he was never prosecuted for doing so. You just can’t make this stuff up!

Toledo Blade Patel burned fetuses field

In fact, the only reason charges were not brought against Patel at that time was because there were no laws on the books to prohibit the heinous act. “There’s no criminal law that can be applied,” District Attorney Miles Zimmerman said at the time.

Now, almost 23 years later, Patel has found himself in trouble again. This month, Patel was sentenced to several days in jail for performing abortions on women who were not pregnant. Patel, whose sordid history also includes accusations of sexual abuse, was ordered to serve 18 days at a correctional facility after he pleaded guilty to the charges.

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Patel also agreed to pay a $20,000 fine and never practice medicine again nor own any interests in any more abortion facilities.

You can read details of that case here.

Unearthed audio has Senator telling abortion owner not to perjure herself regarding accusations of fetal harvesting

Posted in Aborted Babies, Aborted Baby Trash, Abortion Clinics, Abortionist, Abortionist dumps fetuses, Center for Medical Progress with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on November 2, 2015 by saynsumthn

A leaked tape recorded by the Center for Medical Progress shows a Michigan abortion owner admitting that she once talked to “researchers” during her quest to find ways to dispose of the bodies of the babies her clinic aborted. Renee Chelian who operates the abortion clinic chain, Northland Family Planning Center, which performs abortions up to 24 weeks has previously denied under oath that her facility is involved in the harvesting of aborted babies.

Renee Chelian (Image link here)

In a secretly recorded speech given by Chelian before a Michigan National Abortion Federation member session Chelian jokes about how difficult it has been to expose of fetal tissue, laughingly suggesting to her audience that the disposal problem belongs to the women who pay her to abort their babies. (note, Chelian’s conversation begins at the end of one video and the beginning of another video.)

(Video 1 begin ) “We were really tempted to give the fetus back,” Chelian is heard saying in the audio.

(Video 2 begin at very beginning) “We can do that. Um, we thought, we’ll give it to everybody in a gift bag – they can take it home, figure out what to do with it. It’s their pregnancy and why is this our problem?”

Below is video of what the abortion owner told the NAF audience next:

At approximately 3:49 into the video above you can hear Chelian say, I talked to the researchers and they said we want your tissue, we don’t want all of your tissue.”

She later states (9:27 ) , “What ever you’re doing now there’s not a research company that will take all of our fetal tissue because they don’t want it all. And…you know this is an issue we are going to have to grapple with.”

Additional comments in the video are transcribed here:

(Begin 2:05)

    “So in coalition, we started working with hospitals who didn’t want to be seen with us. We met them in like Denny’s restaurant, there’s not even many of those left…We talked about you know what are you guys going to do. They were terrified of a public relations nightmare. That hospital actually had big freezers with breasts and kneecaps and gallbladders and abortions or miscarriages. Um and they put all their jars together, at some point. and they go to Stericycle unless the hospital happens to have their incinerator which is rarer and rarer. The guy from Stericycle was quick to point that out to me.

    “Um…Nobody wants to talk about dead bodies. Um, and nobody but me. I’m just saying. There was a point when Stericycle fired us that I had 5 months worth of fetal tissue in my freezers. We were renting freezers to put them in. It was all I thought about, was fetal tissue. Like, I was so consumed with fetal tissue, I was ready to drive to upper Michigan and have a bonfire. And I was just trying to figure out, you know, how I wouldn’t get stopped. Or, you know, how far into the woods would I have to go to have this fire that nobody was going to see me…I mean it was the worst, I dreamed about how to dispose of fetal tissue. And the garbage disposal was an option…”

    “There was a point where I actually hired someone from another clinic to come in and take 20 bottles and put it my garbage disposal. And I had to fess up to my staff that I did the thing I’ve been criticizing what all these other clinics are doing but I didn’t know what else to do. I was so desperate, that the antis found a way to close us.”

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However, in recorded testimony provided by pro-life activist Lynn Mills, Chelian once called a Michigan Senator a liar after he insinuated her clinic might be involved in fetal tissue harvesting. Chelian appeared before the State Senate Committee in 2012 to oppose any abortion restrictions in the state. Michigan Senator Rick Jones then grilled the clinic owner over whether there was a lab that would harvest fetal parts at her abortion clinic. He said he was contacted by a witness who told him the abortion clinic had attempted to convince her to give an “anatomical donation.”

Have you ever suggested to patients or anybody in your office, your clinics suggest to patients that they could have a late-term abortion and then make an anatomical donation of part of the aborted baby?” Senator Jones asked Chelian.

Chelian then pauses before she finally responds by saying, “No.”

Senator Jones then reminds Chelian she could perjure herself if she is not being truthful, stating, I’d ask you not to perjure yourself. There are witnesses.”

Chelian continues to deny the charges brought up by Senator Jones several more times.

At the time of her testimony, MLive.com reported the exchange this way:

    Jones and Renee Chelian of Northland Family Planning Centers in southeast Michigan got into a testy exchange. Jones asked if the clinic had ever suggested to patients that they could have a “late-term abortion” and then make an “anatomical donation.” Jones asked if the clinic allowed a lab to “harvest parts.” Chelian said “no” in both cases and called Jones a “liar.”

Let’s recap – Chilean says this in CMP’s undercover sting:

    I talked to the researchers and they said we want your tissue, we don’t want all of your tissue.”

And denied being involved in fetal research before the Senate panel in 2012.

This would not be the first time an abortion worker has denied that they took part in fetal harvesting in the past,” says Mills.

However, while Chelian has admitted that her clinics have problems disposing of all the “fetal tissue” i.e. remains of human preborn children, and that she has talked to researchers, she has denied that her abortion chain has had any involvement in fetal tissue harvesting. While we have no way to know whether all or some of Chilean’s admissions are true or not, we do know that these undercover videos recorded by the Center for Medical Progress are exposing the attitude and in some cases horrific actions of the abortion industry.

Renee Chelian with supporters outside Michigan Capital

Renee Chelian with supporters outside Michigan Capital

Listen to the Audio from the 2012 exchange between Chelian and Senator Jones and read a portion of their exchange transcribed below:

Chelian: Well, first of all, I find you rather insulting.
Jones: Isn’t it true that you have a private lab to show up at your clinic to harvest parts?
Chelian: No! And sir, you are a liar!
Jones: No, I’m simply relating what witnesses have brought in.
Chelian: Well, you know, that is part of the problem with this bill is once again.
You have never taken the time to find out the facts because you are 100% wrong. I hope you are embarrassed and you’ll take that back to whoever gave you that information.
Jones: Well, I understand that you do routine gynecological tests for people 39 years old and younger but if they’re older than that, you won’t provide them; yet you will provide abortions.
Chelian: We provide routine gynecological care for the healthy younger population because we’re not specialists in menopause. And we don’t pretend to be specialists in something we’re not. Many doctors offices are specialists in menopausal care and generally after 39, it’s pre-menopausal and then going into postmenopausal care. That doesn’t have anything to do with the good gynecology care that we offer.
Jones: So you deny having LabCore and other groups come to your clinics to collect parts?
Chelian: We use LabCore when we want and any other lab when we suspect an ectopic pregnancy or a molar pregnancy. I’m not sure since you’re not a medical person that you know what that is and I would be happy to tell you if you would like to know. But those are medical problems that pathologists need to look at abortion tissue for. That is not what you suggested. That is in the continuum of good medical care.
Jones: Well, isn’t it true that they come when the babies are 14 to 24 weeks
Chelian: It is true that they come when we call them.
Jones: On Thursdays and Saturdays.
Chelian: You know, actually we do abortions more days than that. So you don’t have that right, either. They come…
Jones: Just the late-term ones.
Chelian: No, and actually we don’t really suspect an ectopic pregnancy in a late-term abortion. You really suspect an ectopic pregnancy when someone is early. Usually under 8 or 9 weeks and the patient, you, the patient, the amount of tissue that you obtain may be inconsistent with what you believe is the correct number of weeks and then we do a tissue float. Then we send it out to a lab and depending on what we find from the tissue float and beta which also goes out to a lab, you know it’s a blood test to measure hcg level. We can advise the patient to seek immediate care in a hospital. Or with her private doctor for the possible ectopic pregnancy or the discovery of a molar pregnancy, which is a pre-cancerous condition in which she needs to be followed up
with a doctor for about a year. Those are reasons that we use pathology labs – not as you …
Jones: Thank you for your testimony, Renee. I spoke yesterday with a witness who…
Chelian: Well, did you speak ? Did you call me…
Jones: spoke with your clinic and your clinic suggested that …
Chelian: Did you call me? Did you call..
Jones: a late term abortion they should make a …
Chelian: Sir, I suggest
Jones: an anatomical donation.
Chelian: You’re lying. Because…
Jones: No, I’m not. I spoke with …
Chelian: Well then your witness is lying. And if you would have picked up the phone and called me or the person who runs any one of my offices, and actually asked a question, honestly, instead of relying on some right to life flunky, with an agenda, who would lie to you because actually you should feel quite foolish right now. That is a lie. You were given false information and you’re accusing me of something, of doing something, based on your inability to get accurate information. I’m insulted
Jones: Renee, thank you for your testimony.

Renee Chelian Partial Birth Abortion 2

Renee CHelian Partial Birth Abortion

Chelian is a former head of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers. She was once called to task after her NCAP group’s executive director admitted that he intentionally misled the media about the numbers of partial birth abortions performed on healthy women. Ron Fitzsimmons, a spokesperson for NCAPS later said that he “lied through my teeth” when he stated that the late term abortion procedure was rarely performed only on women whose lives were in danger or in the case of the health of the preborn child. “It made me physically ill,” Fitzsimmons said.

‘The abortion-rights folks know it, the anti-abortion folks know it, and so, probably, does everyone else,” he said in an article in the Medical News, an American Medical Association publication.