Abortion patient sees her baby during procedure “I saw this red bucket on the floor…”
UPDATE: Since publishing this blog, Jessica’s mom has contacted Saynsumthn, she has stated that she has not changed her opinions on abortion as stated originally. Saynsumthn reported what Jessica said in her public interview but in fairness is adding this disclaimer along with the mother’s comments (below) to the post.
A woman whose abortion at 23 weeks landed her in the hospital spoke out recently about her regret and the harm her decision has cost her.
Jessica D. was interviewed by Al Kresta along with pro-life advocate Lynn Mills. Jessica met Mills after she saw a comment Mills posted on this blog.
The hour long interview was emotional and full of details which may disturb some readers, be warned.
Jessica was married and had a disabled child when, in February of 2014 she and her husband made the decision to have an abortion. She said that when she found out she was pregnant- she was panicked.
“When you’re in panic mode you don’t think – you don’t have emotions to fix things,” she told Al Kresta.
Jessica recounted how her mom had worked for Planned Parenthood years before she decided to have her abortion.
She thought her mom, who remained relatively silent when she contemplated the decision to have an abortion, was supportive.
But after she had the second trimester procedure Jessica said that her mom shocked her by asking why she did not place the child for adoption instead.
“I grew up in a very pro-choice home. We were not very religious and pro-lifers were crazy – that lie and nothing is the truth and they stretch the truth and you can’t trust it,” Jessica said.
Although Jessica mentioned her pregnancy to her mom who was not employed by Planned Parenthood at the time, she was not involved in her ultimate decision to have the abortion.
“After I had the procedure and she knew all along, she said to me on the phone: Why didn’t you just give it up for adoption? And, to hear my mom say that was the most heartbreaking thing she said because my mom was always for abortion and women’s rights.”
In February of 2014, Jessica went to the offices of abortionist Jacob Kalo who set up an appointment for her to see another abortionist, in Lathrup Village, his name was Reginald Sharpe.
Jessica was 23 weeks and 5 days along just under the 24 week limit in Michigan.
Jessica told Kresta that she was not given any counseling by the abortion clinic.
“It was just a price given,” she stated.
“He said right then it would be $4000.00 the week before the 27th. And we didn’t have the full amount and he said it goes up- the longer you wait the higher it is.”
Jessica said the abortionist then gave her advice on how to get a second mortgage on her house or car.
“He said if I get past 24 weeks he would refer me to go to New York.”
Jessica said she was not shown any fetal development pictures as well.
Michigan state law requires an informed consent before an abortion can be performed. In most cases abortion minded women would be able to review informed consent documents online prior to the procedure. But in Jessica’s case, even though Planned Parenthood did not perform the abortion, she was able to go to them to review the informed consent package.
“When I went for my 24 hour consent form at Planned Parenthood, they said ‘now you don’t have to open this packet. This is for the pro-lifers and this isn’t accurate.’ And so, even looking at that I didn’t know what to trust.”
According to Michigan law, the following documents are required to be given to a woman seeking an abortion at least 24 hours prior to the abortion procedure:
A written summary of the abortion procedure she will undergo.
Depictions, illustrations or photographs of fetal development corresponding to the gestational age nearest the probable gestational age of the woman’s fetus.
Prenatal care information
Jessica said the abortion procedure was unlike anything the clinics advertise online. She called the treatment “poor at best.”
“Its like you’re not even human,” she stated.
“It’s so bad I was put into the room and into stirrups and no clothes and nothing covering and I waited for about an hour and a half. There is no dignity in it and it’s painful. It’s like you’re not even there.”
The abortion was a two day procedure.
The first day, Jessica said that she received an injection of digoxin and her overall visit to the clinic lasted about twenty minutes.
Digoxin is a drug injected into an unborn baby to cause his or her heart to stop in preparation for what amounts to a stillborn birth.
It was very painful, Jessica reiterated.
“The first day I was told there would be mild cramping. And, you actually go into labor. When they send you home…I had my son natural and this was much worse.”
Because the pain was so acute, Jessica’s husband called the abortion clinic’s emergency number and they told her under no circumstances to go to the emergency room.
Jessica said that on day two she was not given any pain medication for the procedure.
“I was told I would have medications and fluids…I was expecting sedation and medication,” she said.
She recalls that after forty-five minutes the abortionist had to stop to call 911 due to a perforated uterus and massive blood loss.
“When he did perforate my uterus, I had sat up,” she said.
What happened next will remain ingrained in Jessica’s mind forever.
She continues, “And I saw this red bucket on the floor and – uh – what I saw was just…” at that point in the interview Jessica could not say it, but Mills explained that what Jessica saw was her dismembered baby.
“It was so painful,” she said.
“It was pulling- he was pulling.”
Jessica told Kresta that while she lay there bleeding she felt that it would be better if she would just die.
According to Jessica, parts of her almost 24 week unborn child had gone outside the perforation and the abortionist was having difficulty removing them. She told Mills earlier that the abortionist had been training another doctor to do the later term procedure that day.
While Jessica waited for the emergency responders, she said the doctor changed his clothes and “Swiffered and cleaned up. Then, they placed an IV for the EMS people and kind of scrambled around.” She remained unclothed during this time, she stated.
Mills sent Saynsumthn a transcript of the February 28, 2014 911 call were abortionists Reginald Sharpe tells the dispatcher they need to come right away because, “she has a hole and she’s bleeding.”
You can read that here.
According to Mills, after the EMS techs arrived, the abortionist would not allow them to take her out the front door. She was removed out the back door which made the transfer more excruciating for Jessica who was already in pain.
Jessica said that prior to making the decision to have the abortion, she had no expectation that anything would go wrong because everything she read online said it was a simple and safe procedure.
As a result of the botched abortion, Jessica had to remain hospitalized for several days.
Jessica said that days after she was released from the hospital she began to realize just what she had done in having the abortion.
She said she began to look up information online to try and discover why her experience was so unlike what she had read about regarding abortions generally.
“I had a big conflict in my heart about my procedure and why everything I read online was not what happened to me.”
“Over ten months my life was just devastated,” Jessica emotionally stated, “I lost over eighty pounds.”
Jessica said the abortion put incredible strain on the marriage.
“I don’t think he realized how, like I didn’t realize how fully formed and what we had done.It was terrible.”
“I had actually had a suicide plan at that time things were so low,” she said.
According to Jessica, meeting Lynn Mills was her last effort to make sense of what had happened.
Mills said that Jessica found her online after reading a post at Saynsumthn’s blog (here) and got Mills’ e-mail address from the comment she had left for another abortion patient.
She then contacted Mills.
Mills is helping Jessica work through the pain and regret of the abortion.
Jessica said that she is planning to get counseling for the abortion as well as her marriage. She is working on forgiving herself.
According to Mills, the state of Michigan has since suspended the license of the abortion clinic.
Jessica and Mills have become friends and Jessica said Mills is someone she can tell everything about this experience to without judgement.
“I want pro-lifers out there to really be kind and loving to my friend Jessica…All I want to do is love her- just love her and get her healthy. Jessica doesn’t want this to happen to anyone else,” Mills said in closing.
Jessica said that her mother has actually changed her position on abortion as a result of what she experienced.
UPDATED AFTER THIS BLOG WAS PUBLISHED: However, Jessica’s mother says she has not changed her mind by writing this in the comments, “I am Jessica’s mother. I was never interviewed by anyone, nor did I change my “position” about abortion. This blog is not factual in many areas. Please keep this in mind when reading.”
Mills encourages pro-lifers to go out to abortion clinics as often as possible to try and reach the Jessicas who might be considering ending their child’s life.
Jessica knows that telling her story will anger some people. She said she came forward because she wanted others to know they do not have to go through what she did and to seek help not abortion if you are a women in a crisis pregnancy.
Listen to the complete interview here: